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zeroflower
post Dec 8 2009, 05:03 PM
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I've been breastfeeding my baby for almost 7mths +. Eversince I started solid on my girl, she's been having constipation problems. Last weekend was the worst! I feed her cereal for lunch and porridge for dinner. Actually her stool became more solid after I started her on solids but never hard like stone! But last weekend (after not pooing for a week) her hard stool was stuck at her anus for 20 minutes and bleeding :( :( :( She was crying badly and screaming and I could feel her pain. She couldnt push the stool out cos it was hard and painful and she was sweating profusely. I really didnt know what to do. Actually last week, I fed her papaya and banana the WHOLE week. Even bayam and she drinks water too. It was a terrible ordeal to see her suffering and not being able to do anything. In the end, I had to hug her and slowly encourage her to push the stool out. Even help her to pull it out cos it was halfway stuck. I cried. Blood dripped on the floor. After half an hour, it all ended but she was tired, traumatized and in pain. I really feel like the most wicked mother in the whole world. But I thought I followed everything correctly. Gave her fruits, water, vegs... Besides I still breastfeed her, which was why I didnt think that she was costipated eventhough she didnt poo for a week.

I've stopped the porridge and I gave her only veg and fruits and a small spoon of cereal. So far, she poo twice after the incident but she seems to be afraid to poo. I am also having phobia thinking about it.

Has anyone encountered this problem in their baby? I really need some advice...

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post Dec 8 2009, 05:55 PM
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I read that you can give prune juice dilated with water to babies older than six weeks twice a day. Urm, you might want to cut down on the rice cereal and bananas as those increase the risk of constipation. Instead give apricots, pears and prunes. From this site:

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Bananas, rice cereal and applesauce all tend to produce firmer stools. Carrots and squash are constipating for some babies. Pears, peaches, plums, apricots, peas and prunes make stools softer. By balancing the diet, you can often keep the stools comfortably mid-range. If the stools are still too firm, juice is the gentlest medicine to soften them up. Apple juice twice a day is a good bet. If this doesn't work, prune juice is even better. Also, when your son is straining you might want to put him in a tub of warm water. This will relax his muscles and make the stool easier to pass.


In future, if there is blood like what happened, you should take her to see the doc/paed instead of trying to get it out coz he can use an edema or suppository and etc.
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post Dec 8 2009, 06:08 PM
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zeroflower, what cereal or porridge are u feeding? make sure no meat, it is very hard to digest for baby.

anyway, for my baby who is rather gassy & hard to poop, i've avoided most cereals. maybe just once a week when don't hv time to cook. normal meal is
breakfast: apple (buy soft apple & mash using spoon), teabreak: another fruit or more apple.
lunch & dinner: oats porridge + pumpkin/avocado
since i started her on mashed apple, poop is better.

meiteoh, prune juice has no effect after awhile, my baby can drink 1 plate of it & still not poop for 2 days. when first started prune juice it worked, after awhile she drinks it like water & nothing happens.
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post Dec 8 2009, 07:20 PM
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Yeah, prune juice is ok for immediate action but not so great for prevention coz like adults, after a while, no effect liao. I'd go with fruit purees like pears and apples. smile.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 09:55 AM
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zeroflower,

I would like to share my experiences where my son have the same problem even now he was 17mths. My son also fully BM bb until 1 yr and started solid food when he around 7 mths. He never have any constipation before I start solid food. Somemore his body foundation is "heaty" type. Easily get heat & warm…. So must make sure he drink a lot water and juice everyday, if not he will suffer…A few times, he have this problem, the stool stuck at the "door" , he cant push it out & crying , bleeding, I have no choice and use my finger slowly and softly help him dig the stool out….

when I intro FM, He has this problem too. Very pity him…I need to try and error until I find out FM with "suit" to him..…and I realized that he can't take "expensive" FM such as enfaXX, MamilXX, PediXX…., he either have constipation (2-3 day go toilet) or diarrhea (very watery & > 2 times/day). End up, he only drink DL (every day). Besides, I need to observe every single stuff he eat. Eg: pumpkin is very good but he can't take it, if he ate pumpkin, his stool very dry and hard. He also cant take pear/apple, he will coughing. Every human have different kind of body, same as adult… So, suggest you try start with semi-solid, then only go to solid and make sure your bb take enough water ie. drinks, juice, soup….

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post Dec 9 2009, 10:13 AM
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Zeroflower,
Hi! long time no hear from u...
Well, not only ur bb constipated but mine too ! it is happening on and off since I started solid especially when I intro fish and meat ! maybe I not blend it ( I blamed myself for that) coz i thought I cooked the fish with very small pieces then I mashed it with spoon when feeding him but actually I not mashed well...what a careless mum ! I thought he is ok since only constipated on and off but still poo except sometimes with hard stool ! but....what happen last sun night was so terrible ! I so regret for what I did for not blending well the fish..for meat, I not let him eat it but just cooked together with porridge so that he got the taste so what I suspect is the fish coz the problem !

ok, tell u what happened last sun evening ! it almost same with ur bb !...ard 4pm+, I feed him carrot porridge but he ate super fast & impatiently, me & my hb have to take turn feed him very fast or else he cry ! which mean I feed one spoon then my hb had to continue with d next spoon very fast...my bb just swallow fast without chewing at all ! then the bad thing happened!

around 6pm+, my bb suddenly moody and cried loudly ! at 1st my hb thought nothing so just calm him down but I suspected mb he want to poo so quickily open his cloth diaper & saw a hard stool stucked at his anus ! so I tried to make the poo poo sound for him but he didn't want so I let him sit potty & u know what, he used up all his energy till his face soooo red & cried & scream with tears ! & sweat like nobody business !
soooo pity ! I almost cry too but only can try to calm him down by saying don't scare, don't scare, just poo it out, mummy & daddy is here to him ! after few minutes, finally he poo out few stool ! It was bit greenish but hard & I saw blood around some part of the stool ! soooo heartache ! I brought him see doc but unluckily his paed not open clinic so I just let him see the normal emergency doctor at specialist ! he said the bleeding maybe is coz by the skin around anus injuired when he tried to push & he told me have to blend the fish or meat..& just gave me the oral medicine to smooth stool ! coz I don't want the medicine to put in bb anus, I'm scare he in pain if I put it in...

after that day, I avoid to give any fish or meat to him, only cook vege porridge for him! I only let him had that medicine for 1 day then no more & I checked with his nanny about his poo these 2 days, she said it was ok leh...don't know is she telling truth but I hope my bb is really recovered ! ...
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post Dec 9 2009, 02:40 PM
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Thanks everyone for all your replies. I'm sorry to hear Oxford and Baob had the same experience. It's so painful to see our babies like that.
YEsterday she didnt poo as well. Sigh. I'm really hoping she will do it today.

I tried prune juice but didnt work. MY friend told me prunes work better because there's fibre...

Mei, of course i wanted to bring her to the paed. but the stool was stuck there and it was midnight. the next day i had to go all the way to KL to see a Paed. anyway paed edvise not to use enema..but if dont use enema, how to remove the hard stool..?? hmm..

Happi, i feed her rice cereal..but i just read from here that we must avoid banana, rice cereal, apple sauce and toast. I've been so stupid. i really thought bananas and apple can help too and been feeding her that. Actually i'm making the condition worse!

Oxford, I wanted to use finger too but really scared to hurt her. Nanny feed her 4-5 oz water from 10 - 6pm.. is it too little? I feed her abt 2 oz more at home at night when i feed her solid i think.. this is in addtion to bm. she's also always hot and sweating. I dont know why..

Baob...i havent given her meat or fish yet. Dont dare to try.

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post Dec 9 2009, 03:03 PM
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Bao B,
Dont think the size of the fish pcs you fed cause constipation la.

Zeroflower,
I am so sorry to hear about what happened to your baby :(. Breastfed babies tend to be "more" constipated once they starts on solids cos their tummies are more used to process highly digestible BM. Remember, once they started on solids, they're no longer EXCLUSIVELY breastfed, so that means "7 days no poop is norma rule" no longer applies.

I will suggest to avoid bananas, applesauce (if you steam/baked apples & mash before feeding, this is considered as applesauce), rice cereals, breads, pastas & white potatoes (go easy on dairy products too - cheeses, other milk IF you gave these). These are known food that causes constipation in babies. It's ok even if you were to stop with giving solids altogether for a few days & restart from scratch again. Try 1 food for a few days & monitor baby's poop. This way, you'll be able to gauge how is her reaction towards it (I found my gal cant take bananas from this method & I stopped giving it until she's much bigger).

I had the same experience as you but not as serious. I can honestly tell you it WILL traumatize your baby if you dont solve this problem early - my gal used to be scared of pooping cos she associated poop with pain. Do tummy massage & bicycle legs on your baby EVERYDAY (they'll like it too) to help "move" things a little. What the others suggested is good too - oats porridge & juices.

Please dont blame yourself cos NO mommy in this world will wanna see their baby suffering & remember, each baby is different, you really need to experiment with different type of food to know what causes the constipation.

Meanwhile, if your baby have anal fissures (those cracks around anal from the constipation), you can try to put a bit of petroleum jelly after a warm bath to lubricate the skin & keep it from drying & bleeding.

Take care.
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post Dec 9 2009, 03:05 PM
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Zero, aiks aiks, so sorry to hear that it caught you off guard as in midnight and all. :(

Anyway, I did some checking for you with this book I have - it says that common starter foods like rice and bananas also cause constipation - please don't say you're silly because if I didn't know any better, I'd have fed her bananas and apples as well. They mentioned to give water or juice after every feed though - dunno if that's necessary since you're BFing.

Yeah, whole prunes pureed would be better than the juice. In the meantime, maybe switch to other fruits (pears and apricots, I read is highly recommended for avoiding constipation) and veg, and skip on the cereal lor. :/

I think it's common for ALL babies to experience constipation when first starting solids - each baby is different mah. I know it's hard to NOT feel bad; heck, I would feel too but don't dwell on it and think it's your fault because it really isn't. smile.gif *big hugs*
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:58 AM
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<<<<Oxford, I wanted to use finger too but really scared to hurt her. Nanny feed her 4-5 oz water from 10 - 6pm.. is it too little? I feed her abt 2 oz more at home at night when i feed her solid i think.. this is in addtion to bm. she's also always hot and sweating. I dont know why..>>>>>>>>


zeroflower,
I don't know the exact amount of water should a bb drink per day. what I do is I observe my son "pee" and how frequent he pee....if look yellowish & very thick means not enough water taken. (advice from my mum as experiences bbsitter). did ur bb active move around? my son is hyperactive type, very kasar type, running here & there not walk slowly1 at home. my son also very easy hot & sweating type even during sleeping time. my mum ask me try to taste his sweat. if salty means not good...ppl say "mao len han" (in mandarin). so usually midnight, will give him some water even he is sleeping to avoid he loss water a lot....
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post Dec 10 2009, 02:33 PM
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I didn't know baby can be so constipated to the extend of bleeding. Anyway, my babies had constipation too when we started them on FM. Not as serious as zeroflower's baby though. They just didn't poo a few days and we were afraid that they will get tummy discomfort, etc. I gave my babies enema and the poo came out immediately. The babies didn't feel a thing. But our paed told me not to use enema on babies as the sudden release of poo may do more harm than good. In some cases, it might cause the colon to burst! He told us to massage the baby's tummy first. Then insert our small finger into the anus gently and release. This will cause the poo to come out just like using enema, but in a more gentle manner. Otherwise, use an anal termomether instead of finger.
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post Dec 10 2009, 05:14 PM
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My daughter constipated again today morning :( :(

Actually last night, again almost midnight she tried to poo and just managed to get one stool out. hard. I decided to feed her the stool softener...
So this morning she managed to get some hard stool out, cried a bit then the rest were quite soft - i guess due to the stool softener. but she bled again..

I'm going to totally stop all cereals for not and just try giving her papaya, green veg and prunes (will buy pears and apricot too)...and also water and bm of course.. I've been doing the bicycle motion and tummy massage too..

But like janice mentioned, i read that bf babies are more prone to constipation cos used to digest only bm...
so now my hb is suggesting that i wean her off :( ask me to gradually give her formula so that she can accept solids better and wont constipate..
But i thought fm is very heaty and will cause constipation???
I'm really lost..sigh but I'll do what's best for her. If giving formula will help her accept solid better and prevent constipation, then i'll wean her off.. Hate to see her suffer every time have to poo!
Can anyone advice? Will giving her formula help? I think i'll also go and see Dr Koe tomorrow..maybe since she's pro bf, she might tell me what to do or how to change her diet. Honestly, I hope i dont need to stop bf her yet..

Btw i gave her mashed prune yesterday. bayam too. she hates it. had to force her. gave her today too. mixed with bm.

I bought the privin enema but hb refuse to use..we argued and i finally agreed that i really wasnt sure if the enema is dangarous to such a young baby. but still keep it for emergency...

Appreciate all your comfort and replies..THANK YOU!
now i know that the worst thing is to see our babies in pain but unable to do anything.. this is what all parents have to go through at times when our kids are sick...
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post Dec 10 2009, 05:29 PM
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Hi Zeroflower,

Seems like your child is having severe constipation. My elder daughter had this problem when she was around 2 years old. Even eating papaya fruits everyday also didn't solve the constipation problem. Finally the padeatrician prescribed lactogg ( a kind of probiotic) which manage to cure her constipation problem. Lactogg is safe to be consumed even for babies. You can refer to this site for more detail.

http://www.lactogg.com/English/LactoGG/index.htm

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post Dec 10 2009, 05:46 PM
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I don't think FM is going to help. It's a matter of her body (and you) adjusting, and that takes time - some men just don't get it. =.=
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post Dec 10 2009, 07:53 PM
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Why not feed her porridge instead of cereal?
If Im not mistaken, cereal is consider hot as well. FM is also hot, some can get very hot.

But most important is to drink water. Maybe drink 2-3oz every 3hours or so. I do feel 5oz is too little considering my 1month old also consume like 6~8oz per day to get nice stool with FM. Drink every few hours. You just need to let him drink water continously throughout the day. If drink in big quantity for one or twice also useless cos most will be flushed out and not being kept in your body.
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post Dec 10 2009, 08:16 PM
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Andre, porridge is not recommended for infants just starting on solids because it contains no iron and infants below 7-8 months are unable to take in iron-rich foods like meats and certain veg. Hence why paeds recommend baby cereal that's iron fortified.

IMHO, you cannot compare in this case because your baby is on FM whereas Zero's baby has always been on 100% BM. BM is made up of 80% water and thus, exclusively breastfeed babies hardly ever go through constipation compared to their FM peers who need to take in lots of water in order to avoid constipation. In Zero's case, her baby is starting solids with BM as the main diet and solids as supplement, and your baby has yet to start solids.

Btw, bananas are considered "liang" so how to fit into the whole "hot and cold" dynamics ah?

Zero, I checked back on my book again and it says

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In excess (more than 12 ounces a day), the sugar profle of these juices (prune, pear and apple) may have a laxative and irritating effect on the colon..."

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Because juice is less filling than BM or formula, infants can consume a larger quantity without feeling full. Recommended amounts of 100 percent fruit juice are

6 mths to 12 mths: 4 ounces a day
1 to 4 years: 6 ounces a day.

Dilute juice with at least an equal amount of water.

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Treating constipation
Add fibre foods to baby's diet
Fibre foods for older babies are bran and barley cereals, high fibre veg like peas, broccoli and beans. Laxative fruits are apricots, prunes, plums and peaches.

Give baby more water
Extra water must accompany extra fibre. Otherwise fiber can make stools harder than softer.


They mentioned that once constipation starts, stop all food that you started with and give strained or pureed prunes or peaches or fruits/veg like pears, carrots, squash, sweet potatoes.

Hope this helps. :/
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post Dec 10 2009, 08:52 PM
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andre, you feed ur one mth baby with water? ru serious? both my gynea and paed said no water for babies below 6 mths. my boy is on BM and at times i top up with FM but i never ever gave him water. ladies, correct me if am wrong pls! my paed in dsara specialist insist no water for 6 mths.
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post Dec 10 2009, 09:42 PM
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Agree with Mabel. Stop all solids first. Let the constipation go away and then re introduce solids slowly. I feel that FM can help your baby accept solids better. But if you are going to intro FM, then halt on the solids. Let the baby accept FM first, after her poo poo ok, then only start on solids.

Btw, whether or not to stop solids, you should bring your baby to see dr since there's bleeding. Perhaps her internal already injured.

As for the enema, I pumped only 1mL to my babies. Do not pump in the whole bulb. Babies cannot take the whole bulb of enema.
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (starryeye @ Dec 10 2009, 08:52 PM) *
andre, you feed ur one mth baby with water? ru serious? both my gynea and paed said no water for babies below 6 mths. my boy is on BM and at times i top up with FM but i never ever gave him water. ladies, correct me if am wrong pls! my paed in dsara specialist insist no water for 6 mths.


I think if u feed baby with Fm, we should give water to them. unlike BM, coz it is consist 80% water, so I thinkwhy the paed say baby below 6 months no water, I think they are refer to baby with exclusive BM. But I am not sure of baby with mixing BM and FM, may be since they still having BM, so no water require..
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:39 PM
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starryeye, andre's baby is on formula milk - should be given water
only exclusively breastfed babies don't need water. but if give a teaspoon or two of water, also doesn't matter. it does help them poop easier.
if u're mixing formula & breastmilk, u might need to give water, just observe & see depending on yr baby's poop.

zeroflower, breastmilk is the most easily digested, if yr baby isn't ready for solids, just give breastmilk till she's ready. nothing wrong with waiting longer.
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post Dec 11 2009, 08:18 AM
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Happi, zero's baby is nearly 7 mths - by this time, should start to intro semi-solids coz if wait longer, it may become harder to introduce solid food. That's why paeds recommend that by 6 mths, must start weaning (intro solids) but milk is still the main food source.
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post Dec 11 2009, 12:35 PM
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personally, i think each baby grows & develops at a different stage. if introducing semisolids caused more harm than good, i feel it can be done slower or later. best to be willing to be flexible, perhaps its just some food that cannot be tolerated? or baby really isn't ready?

my nephew would eat his semi-solids & nothing would go down. so just waited awhile, still cannot. at about 10-11mths, he just suddenly started being able to swallow & keep everything down. hopped straight on to solids & skipped the liquid/puree stage. of course, still mash the food abit so he won't choke on it.

paeds can recommend, but i believe as mothers if we've tried & it doesn't work out, be flexible & adjust to the baby. :)
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*nods*

I hear you. Reminds me of the concept of baby-led weaning. smile.gif
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QUOTE (Bao B @ Dec 9 2009, 10:13 AM) *
Zeroflower,
Hi! long time no hear from u...
Well, not only ur bb constipated but mine too ! it is happening on and off since I started solid especially when I intro fish and meat ! maybe I not blend it ( I blamed myself for that) coz i thought I cooked the fish with very small pieces then I mashed it with spoon when feeding him but actually I not mashed well...what a careless mum ! I thought he is ok since only constipated on and off but still poo except sometimes with hard stool ! but....what happen last sun night was so terrible ! I so regret for what I did for not blending well the fish..for meat, I not let him eat it but just cooked together with porridge so that he got the taste so what I suspect is the fish coz the problem !

ok, tell u what happened last sun evening ! it almost same with ur bb !...ard 4pm+, I feed him carrot porridge but he ate super fast & impatiently, me & my hb have to take turn feed him very fast or else he cry ! which mean I feed one spoon then my hb had to continue with d next spoon very fast...my bb just swallow fast without chewing at all ! then the bad thing happened!

around 6pm+, my bb suddenly moody and cried loudly ! at 1st my hb thought nothing so just calm him down but I suspected mb he want to poo so quickily open his cloth diaper & saw a hard stool stucked at his anus ! so I tried to make the poo poo sound for him but he didn't want so I let him sit potty & u know what, he used up all his energy till his face soooo red & cried & scream with tears ! & sweat like nobody business !
soooo pity ! I almost cry too but only can try to calm him down by saying don't scare, don't scare, just poo it out, mummy & daddy is here to him ! after few minutes, finally he poo out few stool ! It was bit greenish but hard & I saw blood around some part of the stool ! soooo heartache ! I brought him see doc but unluckily his paed not open clinic so I just let him see the normal emergency doctor at specialist ! he said the bleeding maybe is coz by the skin around anus injuired when he tried to push & he told me have to blend the fish or meat..& just gave me the oral medicine to smooth stool ! coz I don't want the medicine to put in bb anus, I'm scare he in pain if I put it in...

after that day, I avoid to give any fish or meat to him, only cook vege porridge for him! I only let him had that medicine for 1 day then no more & I checked with his nanny about his poo these 2 days, she said it was ok leh...don't know is she telling truth but I hope my bb is really recovered ! ...


BaoB,

I think is not because of you didn't blend the porridge. I blend the porridge for Nerissa and she is constipated as well. I tried to avoid meat in her porridge but that doesn't help.

I feed her with a lot of water and banana everyday. Didn't know that banana will form hard stool. I checked with Paed if banana will cause constipation, and he told me no. I was wondering why Nerissa taking banana everyday and still get constipation. Haih. I think I will go to Cold Storage today and try to get avocado/apricot/prune juices for Nerissa.

My poor little girl now has phobia when I put her to sit on potty..
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post Dec 14 2009, 10:38 AM
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advise from my paed

Babies who are on FM must be given about 0.5 - 1 oz everday (depending on age of 0 - 4/5 mths) and for constipated problem, a short term measure is to mix some glucolin with water and feed the baby BUT this method must not be used every time. Something needs to be done with you babies' diet to ensure they pass motion naturally.
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post Dec 14 2009, 10:48 AM
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Actually, by right, eating bananas alone will not cause constipation - it's a whole boatload of other things in one's diet that can lead to constipation (lack of water, too much fibre and so forth). Even eating too much iron-rich foods can lead to constipation!

BRAT - bananas, rice, apples and toast will help harden stool, hence why it's recommended for those with loose stool or diarrhoea (something in these foods - the enzyme pectin, etc affects absorption and condition of stool) so if your little one has constipation, you might want to avoid them.

What about fruits like watermelon? I remember my paed mentioning that babies can take watermelon when they start semi-solids - it's a good fruit as it's packed with water and fibre. smile.gif
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post Dec 14 2009, 11:09 AM
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Hmm, now that linlin metioned about probiotics, I noticed after my gal starts to take yoghurt/yoghurt drink, she pooped better. Zeroflower, maybe you can consider that? Yoplait have yoghurt for babies from 6 months old OR you can try the Lactogg linlin recommended (can ask your paed to recommend too).

Personally, I dont feel weaning will help cos there is no guarantee FM wont cause her to be constipated. It's a matter of her body adjusting - just like what Mabel said.
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QUOTE (Bao B @ Dec 9 2009, 10:13 AM) *
Zeroflower,
Hi! long time no hear from u...
Well, not only ur bb constipated but mine too ! it is happening on and off since I started solid especially when I intro fish and meat ! maybe I not blend it ( I blamed myself for that) coz i thought I cooked the fish with very small pieces then I mashed it with spoon when feeding him but actually I not mashed well...what a careless mum ! I thought he is ok since only constipated on and off but still poo except sometimes with hard stool ! but....what happen last sun night was so terrible ! I so regret for what I did for not blending well the fish..for meat, I not let him eat it but just cooked together with porridge so that he got the taste so what I suspect is the fish coz the problem !

ok, tell u what happened last sun evening ! it almost same with ur bb !...ard 4pm+, I feed him carrot porridge but he ate super fast & impatiently, me & my hb have to take turn feed him very fast or else he cry ! which mean I feed one spoon then my hb had to continue with d next spoon very fast...my bb just swallow fast without chewing at all ! then the bad thing happened!

around 6pm+, my bb suddenly moody and cried loudly ! at 1st my hb thought nothing so just calm him down but I suspected mb he want to poo so quickily open his cloth diaper & saw a hard stool stucked at his anus ! so I tried to make the poo poo sound for him but he didn't want so I let him sit potty & u know what, he used up all his energy till his face soooo red & cried & scream with tears ! & sweat like nobody business !
soooo pity ! I almost cry too but only can try to calm him down by saying don't scare, don't scare, just poo it out, mummy & daddy is here to him ! after few minutes, finally he poo out few stool ! It was bit greenish but hard & I saw blood around some part of the stool ! soooo heartache ! I brought him see doc but unluckily his paed not open clinic so I just let him see the normal emergency doctor at specialist ! he said the bleeding maybe is coz by the skin around anus injuired when he tried to push & he told me have to blend the fish or meat..& just gave me the oral medicine to smooth stool ! coz I don't want the medicine to put in bb anus, I'm scare he in pain if I put it in...

after that day, I avoid to give any fish or meat to him, only cook vege porridge for him! I only let him had that medicine for 1 day then no more & I checked with his nanny about his poo these 2 days, she said it was ok leh...don't know is she telling truth but I hope my bb is really recovered ! ...


BaoB,

I think is not because of you didn't blend the porridge. I blend the porridge for Nerissa and she is constipated as well. I tried to avoid meat in her porridge but that doesn't help.

I feed her with a lot of water and banana everyday. Didn't know that banana will form hard stool. I checked with Paed if banana will cause constipation, and he told me no. I was wondering why Nerissa taking banana everyday and still get constipation. Haih. I think I will go to Cold Storage today and try to get avocado/apricot/prune juices for Nerissa.

My poor little girl now has phobia when I put her to sit on potty..


Cath, thanks for your reply !
I asked my paed last sat about this problem & she said the cause should not be the fish or meat that I not blend..she suspected I changed my bb milk powder recently ( FYI My bb is having fm & bm ).I changed from stage 1 to stage 2 not long ago & she advised maybe I should change back to stage 1 again to see how...& at the same time, give my bb more water & fruits ! she said banana will not coz constipation too ! & maybe should try papaya !
For these 2 days, I monitor my bb's poo, he did poo, not that hard or touchwood bleed but his stool is very very dry ! & not poo much except yesterday poo twice !
Maybe I should try papaya but I always forget to bring it to his nanny ! I see most mummies here said not feed their bb fruits at evening or night time so I wonder when can I feed ?..
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post Dec 17 2009, 01:49 PM
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I try to feed her as much water as possible. Now she takes more than 4oz aday at the nanny's and more at home, maybe 2 - 3 oz.

Last night I stopped her stool softener. Really hope she will get better. I've been trying to feed her more so that she will pass motion more often. I give her mashed prunes every morning, then followed by cereal. Lunch and dinner is rice porridge with LOTS of veg (bayam and carrots, brocolli.. ) The porridge is actually green in colour! she hates it but I have to force her to eat...sigh..feeding time is now quite difficult with her strunggling.

I stopped on the bananas not only bcos of the constipation but she started having phlegm and coughing. I dont think bananas alone caused the constipation too. It's my fault cos I thought 7 days no poo is okay... Now every night I have to literally force her to poo..

Oh ya, my paed also mention that whenever we change the baby's diet, it'll affect the stool. But some are lucky enough cos the baby can adjust very quickly. Actually the meat/ fish as long as not too rough should be okay.

Baob your baby is big enough so no need to blend anymore i think. Got teeth already right if I'm not mistaken?

My mil actually ask me to give my girl honey and water or glucose.. but I know honey is a no no before 1 year and as for glucose, I think I'll leave that as the last option. Besides, now that my girl is having flu and cough with phlegm I've stopped all other fruits as well. Kena scolding cos my mil says those fruits caused her to be sick.
I disagree cos I think it's the virus she caught from the clinic, but why argue?

I was thinking of probiotics or yogurt too. Maybe I'll try to get yogurt this weekend. Can get from supermarket right?

Thanks for all your help...I'm feeling drained out but I know I can always get support here. hugs to all..
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post Dec 17 2009, 02:28 PM
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Actually prune is equivalent to glucose. It is not the fibre in prune that helps in easing constipation. It is the sugar in it. Sugar in prune is of different type (forgot what already). It does not absorb water. So with this sugar in the colon, the colon will not absorb water, thus the stool is soft, making it easy to pass out.

I give my babies probiotic if they do not poo poo for 5 days. Half capsule for each of them. Normally they will poo poo within 12 hours after taking the probiotics. I give them the GI flora probiotics. When you buy, make you you get those with infantis (forgot the spelling, may be this spelling is not right) as this is the type of probiotics needed by infants. Not all brand has this.
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