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  1. These days with more and more women kicking-ass in the workforce, trying to take over the world, who has time to plan the perfect wedding? Yes, eventhough it is your dream to manage every little detail so that it comes out exactly like how you'd imagine it to be, but really? Do you really have the time? So you either have the choice of: a) just find the perfect hotel/restaurant (that fits your budget) and get them to plan it for you b) go check out some bridal shops that provides full service (although keep in mind their service are quite limited- it does NOT include running the event on that day) c) beg for your friends and relatives to help you out ( there's a risk you might end up making an enemy or two with your friends and/or relatives, but hey, on the bright side you'll definitely know who are your real true friends that you can count on) d) hire a wedding planner (especially if you want something different and customised) [ I chose D. I just got married 3 months ago and thought it'd be great for me to share my experience with you all. I wish someone would've told me what to expect and how to go about it.] There are essentially 3 main types of service you can get from a wedding planner: - full service. Those who hire this service either has no time whatsoever, hates planning/stress, have tons of money, or want to be surprised. Basically the planner will do everything for you without you lifting a finger. - semi-planning: it's where you want to still be a part of it or have done some planning but would love an extra help or advisor on your team. - event coordination: it's for those who already plan their own wedding but just need someone to oversee the details and ensure a smooth flow of events on that day Decide what you need and choose the service best suited for you. If the right one is found, there will be no doubt, how much info and help you'll be getting in terms of the entire planning process. Very insightful stuff that should make planning easier and if you're lucky, stress-free (note: dependent on your level of perfectionism). Of course no one is perfect or can read your mind and do exactly as how you'd imagined your wedding to be, but if they can't even cover the basics properly, then i'd say fire the planner. Here are some basics that you should expect from any planner: Basics: Must-Haves: 1- they listen and make it all about you (they don't try to force their ideals onto you and make you feel guilty) 2- understand your budget and make it work (so-so planners will get lousy deals for you because it's cheap and they're lazy to think out of the box; excellent planners, will find incredible alternatives for you) 3- reply your emails/calls in a timely manner (they must NOT be hard to reach) 4- extremely knowledgeable about all wedding matters and can advise you on anything pertaining to your wedding- before, during and after. 5- goes without saying, they should also have a lot of vendor contacts at the tip of their fingers 6- problem-solving skills These are essentially the prerequisite before you even sign on the dotted line. But how would you really know, how can you tell if they really represent themselves honestly or just another 'con-artist'? This may not guarantee you will find the perfect planner, but at least you won't fall for a con-job. So here are some tips to keep in mind: 1- Be careful who you choose. Usually you can't really tell from just one meeting with them. These initial meetings are where they'll do everything to impress you, but at the end of the day, it's what they can really do and how they do it. Their 'portfolios' usually don't mean much because they can easily 'steal' and claim others' credit as their work. (it's extremely easy to take nice pictures in ANY weddings and steal it) Solution: have an idea of what you want ie, colors, theme, favourite things/flowers etc and see how they magically expand on your thoughts. That's a sign of true creative thinkers. 2-Ask for a recommendation (or review) from their previous clients (gauge how willing they're to share that part, that should be a sign) 3- Look for problem solvers and planners who have great initiative (who doesn't wait for you to tell them what you want) Alot of times, so-so planners will look at you and shrug their shoulders whenever there's a problem. And they'll sneakily ask you what YOU want to do (so they can be free of any responsibility). Always asked them for solution/ alternatives and what they think-- that's what you're paying them for right? Their expertise and advice? Solution: this is essentially the core of their service, so make sure this is covered in their service contract 4- Don't pay everything upfront. Some will insist you pay the full amount just before your wedding. Worst-case scenario: you paid everything and they went MIA on your wedding day. Solution: Check your contract and ask them to revise to what you're comfortable with. 5- Read everything in the agreement. Twice. I know you're quite used to clicking on 'Agree' whenever you're faced with a sea of letters and alphabets and just sign whenever anyone asked you to. NOT THIS. Solution: Before you sign their agreement, add a few of your own so that it's fair. Usually vendors' contracts are very lopsided, and only protects their own interests, not yours. 6- Check for fine print. Many planners will let you assume they do everything for you and it's all covered in their 'fees' until you get slap with an extra invoice, after your day has settled, when reality has set in and you realized you're both broke (assuming you didn't collect enough angpaos to break-even) Solution: ask them to detailed exactly what is covered in their fees and what is not upfront 7- Check their vibes, if they don't even give you good vibes to begin with, don't hire them. Work with someone you feel comfortable and can be yourself with. Don't forget, this person will have to know you to be able to plan your dream wedding for you. 8- Be wary of planners who try to 'push' certain vendors (eventhough they may not be the right fit) just so they can earn extra commission. You'll be surprise at how the relationship between planners and vendors are closer than planners and clients. It's quite natural since it's a small industry and they work together more than with you (unless you're a serial bride) Solution: Make sure you're cc-ed in all emails (not forwarded) and that the vendors cc you when replying. Unless of course, you wanted to surprise yourself with the wedding! 9- Lastly, a good planner will always have your best interests at heart. They should be able to make logical decisions for you at a time when you can't (due to stress, feeling overly- emotional, anxiety problems etc). I must say, not many planners would even dare step into this realm of making the decisions for you for fear that you might bite back and blame them. But the one that does take the risk, and for your own good, is definitely a true gem. Hope all these helps in your planning. Happy planning and I wish you all the best in your marriage!
  2. Dear all lovely grooms and brides-to-be contemplating to hire a wedding planner or even those who need an event planner, I do not have a good wedding or event planner to recommend. However I can tell you one wedding/event planner which you may want to steer clear of. This is our fair and honest comment, nothing malicious, no ill-intention and strictly spoken from our very unfortunate personal experiences as clients dealing with this event company, Pathway Events. We hope that this would help others make a more informed decision when hiring a wedding planner, especially when she/he can make or break your big day. Because this is a fair comment, I will admit that I was not one of the easiest clients because I did have expectations. After all, who doesn't on their big day and after forking out good money for their services? I may be difficult but I know the best way forward is to be civil but this word very clearly doesn't exist in the wedding planner's dictionary. Let's start with the good things they did - they did get us some good deals from the restaurant for us such as a free pianist, kept to 80% of what they were required to do for the wedding. What they were most efficient for (and reasonably expected) - demanding for payment and arranging for food tasting session (where the lady and her friends also invited themselves to and ate), quick to suggest many little things that you need to pay for, like unnecessary photo frames, had 4 wedding planners and staff present just for our very small wedding but not entirely sure what most of the staff did apart from walking around with files in their hands. Now, let's get to the stuff that they made us really unhappy with - unprofessional and rotten attitude. The lady I dealt with Ms C is probably one of the most unprofessional persons I have ever dealt with. While she did follow up with what she was expected to do, this lady does not take criticisms and feedback well. Let's start with our wedding invitation cards, despite us being very clear with what we wanted and even prepared drafts with clear instructions for her, she gave us what she/her designers wanted, not what we wanted. When we rejected the ideas presented to us, she did not take it very well. Only after many exchange of less than polite emails, did she get what we wanted - more or less. That's the first drama. The next drama came in the form of food/name tags. She claimed that her designers knew Chinese but when we saw the draft of these tags, you could imagine horror. The Chinese words on the tags looked like they had been ripped off Google Translate. We had to spend several days just to correct all these mistakes. Even after sending them the correct draft, they continued to make mistakes on the tags. What could have been done in one shot took several. Talk about time is precious. As a wedding planner, I felt that she should have been more attentive and empathetic. Instead she gave us the feeling that we were not important because we had a small event. She was not very meticulous with her updates; missing out some details towards the last few weeks before the wedding. Fine, we understand that we were not the only ones getting married. The biggest drama came in the form of after service. This lady arranged for a photographer to take our wedding photos. When the photos turned out to be really badly taken, we gave her our feedback which she did not take very well at all. We asked if the photographer was a newbie, considering how the photos turned out, how disappointed our family and friends were as we did not have that many decent photographs as many were taken at rather awkward angles, and that we would send some photos back to her for retouching. The response we got from her was, something along the line, she said, 'We thought the photos were nice, I guess it's subjective. I don't know what your expectations are but please note that the venue is tight and the photographer did what he could to capture the photos. How do you want me to help you? 'Venue is tight' isn't an excuse for not taking decent photographs. I paid you and the photographer good money to take decent photographs. As a wedding planner, if you can't even work out your client's expectations, then I figure out you have a long way to go or you should just quit being a wedding planner. So I told her, this is our honest feedback but whether you/photographer accept the feedback, this is beyond us. I told her that venue being tight should not be an excuse not to have decent photographs, and it would be meaningless to talk about what the photographer should have/should not have done at that moment. I also told her I would speak no more and that this text would mark the end of our communication on the issue. What came next was really ridiculous - she started personally attacking and insinuated that I was fussy. She brought up a photographer which I had hired a year ago to take our pre-wedding photos, which also turned out to be disastrous. At that point, I asked her if she knew anyone who could help to retouch the photos. I shared both batches of photos with friends and families and all agreed that they were unskilled. The photographer whom I complained to this lady loves taking photographs of subject from under their chins; he has the magical power of making even skinny people look like they need to go on diet plans, and let's not even get to people who are already big like my dad. So it was my bad luck. I did hire a third photographer to take another batch of wedding photos and they all turned out to be stunning even without editing. So I am pretty sure, the problem isn't so much with me. The best part of her response - I should have told the photographer what kind of poses and angles, particularly I complained about the photographer I hired a year ago and things are based on mutual understanding. My understanding is that you would take good photos of me, and you would do your best to take good photos of me. Oh yeah, if I were a super model, yeah, that would be plausible. The thing is the disappointing remarks came from family and friends - so did she just suggest that I time-travel and stand right next to my relatives and friends and tell them how to pose during the wedding? I told her that if she could not accept feedback, just leave it at that and it was not appropriate for her to bring up a separate issue which did not concern her as well as not to use it to personally attack me. I also told her not to respond any more because her remarks were getting more and more ridiculous and stupid, and she was only wasting my time. I heard she was one of the co-owners of this company; that's sad because this is the kind of mentality she exhibits and you do not expect adults like her who claimed to be so well-experienced to make such childish remarks. If she had responded, 'sorry to hear about the photos. Let me speak to the photographer and see what he could do for you or would you like to speak to the photographer directly?', she would have earned herself respect. For her and her friends to think that the badly taken photos were very good, you can probably expect what kind of quality you will be getting from her, or may be if your wedding is a super grand one, unlike a small one like mine, may be you will get a different treatment from her. Good luck, my friends. We hope you will never have to endure what we went through. Pre-wedding and during the wedding are important but post-wedding is equally important, especially when we have to deal with problem like this.
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  5. 5th KL-PJ Wedding Fair 2013 Date : 17-19 May 2013 (Fri-Sun) Time : 11am to 9pm (Free Admission) Venue : Hall 1 & 2, Mid Valley Exhibition Centre, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia No of Booths : 200 booths Website : http://www.klpj.com.my Event Details KL-PJ Wedding Fair 2013 on 17-19 May 2013 (Fri-Sun) at Mid Valley Exhibition Centre, Kuala Lumpur, is the premier bridal expo in Malaysia. Expect double the size, twice the crowd. The largest wedding fair yet, featuring the renowned KL-PJ Top 30 Local Bridal Houses from SS2, Sunway, Damansara, Puchong, Jalan Ipoh, Loke Yew and Cheras. KL-PJ Wedding Fair 2013 will bring together Malaysia’s largest gathering of local bridal houses, studios and celebrity wedding photographers including Enya Mareine, Keep Gallery, Artiz Studio Korea, Touch Group, Tom Group, etc. Also incorporating Wedding Venue, Banquet and Restaurants Show (WVB&RS) and Beautiful Brides Show (BEAUBS). WVB&RS – Over 70 Hotels & Restaurants to choose from! Plan your dream wedding venue / wedding dinner within your budget or in the most luxurious 5-star setting banquets BEAU.BS – All under one roof, exhibitors include Malaysia’s best spas, beauty and slimming salon, wedding gowns and dresses, shoes, jewellery, wedding planner, live band, cake makers, stationers and more! KL-PJ Wedding Fair 2013 has everything you need to plan a truly unique wedding day and to make you the super-beautiful bride of the day! Log onto http://www.klpj.com.my to see all exhibitor's profile Wedding Expo 2013 (WEEX2013) at Mid Valley Date : 20-22 September 2013 (Fri-Sun) Time : 11am to 9pm (Free Admission) Venue : Hall 1, Mid Valley Exhibition Centre, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia No of Booths : 100 booths Website : http://www.weddingexpo.com.my Event Details Wedding Expo 2013 (WEEX2013) at Mid Valley will be held from 20-22 September 2013 at Mid Valley Exhibition Centre. Featuring 30 exclusive local bridal houses under the Wedding Expertise Association Kuala Lumpur and Selangor (WEA), who have all committed to provide only the best services and industry agreeable and affordable wedding packages at satisfied quality level. At WEEX, couples can also expect KL-PJ Top 30 Local Bridal Houses. Also incorporating Wedding Venue, Banquet & Restaurants Show (WVB&RS).
  6. Hi Everyone! I'm really new here and i'm guessing most of you are married. Would love to know how much hiring a wedding planner costs you and whats the best way around it? Oh please do recommend if you know any excellent wedding planners too! thanks! :) Love, Michelle
  7. Hi all! I wanna share you about what should you do before your wedding? Have you ever count how many month you need to plan the wedding? with this thread I will help you to arrange the budget timeline and shared you about my experience as a wedding planner in Jakarta. 12 - 11 Month before : Define wedding date Determine the budget for each vendor Define the number of guests! Immediately reserve a seat & pay Down Payment 10 - 9 Month before : Find as much information about your vendor Immediately specify the model of a wedding dress that you want, the following accessories and shoes Define model and materials that will be used by the mother & mother-in-law Define model bride suits for men Ensure important documents to complete the terms of the marriage deed is incomplete and problematic, both religious and legal (civil or religion) 8 - 7 Month before : Start to ask your decorating vendor to sketch the decor Order the desired wedding dress Order documentation purposes: pre-wedding photos, studio, coverage, candid, and video Order wedding cake I wish my tips will helps you arrange your wedding. I'm waitting for your respond and will continued my thread if it useful for you. :)
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