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yeeyee,

looks like HUKM also not too bad.... may I know how much was your bill for Gleaneagle and HUKM? I know Gleaeagle is good, but too far.... :ohmy:

My delivery cost in SCHUKM is RM 4,500, inclusive of ceasarean chages, pain killer, medicines for both myself and my bb, consultation, single private room (not shared toilet type) + the rental of a bed for my hubby to stay over with me for 3 nights.

My gynea is Prof Tan Ay Eng. In overall, I am satisfied with their services and comfortable with her judgements. In fact, I shared my experiences under the other topic: http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index....rt=#entry198732

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Jacqline,

thx! yeah, i'm looking forward to this trip, at least a long break after AD....

i also hope my body is fit to conceive... will break the news if it comes true... :lol:

nckeat,

can u suggest to me which hospital i should go? i'm really lost..... I need a full service hospital. pls.... :sad:

All major public hospitals are full service hospitals which include the GHKL, Serdang GH, Putrajaya GH, Ampang GH, Kajang GH, Selayang GH and Sg Buloh GH. In fact all these hospital have individual delivery suite for the husband to accompany you. In fact some of the hospitals like Serdang, Putrajaya and Sg Buloh, the delivery suites and room are so beautiful and easily beat majority of the private hospitals. You have to see with your own eyes to believe it. But please expect these hospitals are always crowded. They do about 1000 deliveries per month. You cannot demand 1st class room. 1st come 1st serve basis.

As for private hospitals, the major one should be ok. I just don't encourage shoplot maternity home. The latest luxury hospital, Princecourt, I heard for an elective Cesaraen Section, it cost our famous DJ Lam Tuck Weng a whooping RM40000.00.

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yeeyee,

looks like HUKM also not too bad.... may I know how much was your bill for Gleaneagle and HUKM? I know Gleaeagle is good, but too far.... :ohmy:

My delivery cost in SCHUKM is RM 4,500, inclusive of ceasarean chages, pain killer, medicines for both myself and my bb, consultation, single private room (not shared toilet type) + the rental of a bed for my hubby to stay over with me for 3 nights.

My gynea is Prof Tan Ay Eng. In overall, I am satisfied with their services and comfortable with her judgements. In fact, I shared my experiences under the other topic: http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index....rt=#entry198732

Oops! so expensive already since I left that place long time ago. For those who prefer the public wing rather that the private wing, I think the cost will only 1/3 or 1/2 only.

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aishiteru,

my house is not really very close to HUKM, about 10km away. But the main problem is i have to go thru the 'hot' area.... that's why it's not my 1st choice....

yeeyee, maesy,

thx very much for the info. The charges are in fact very reasonable.... I'll pay a visit one day.... :lol:

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Jacqline,

thx! yeah, i'm looking forward to this trip, at least a long break after AD....

i also hope my body is fit to conceive... will break the news if it comes true... :lol:

nckeat,

can u suggest to me which hospital i should go? i'm really lost..... I need a full service hospital. pls.... :sad:

All major public hospitals are full service hospitals which include the GHKL, Serdang GH, Putrajaya GH, Ampang GH, Kajang GH, Selayang GH and Sg Buloh GH. In fact all these hospital have individual delivery suite for the husband to accompany you. In fact some of the hospitals like Serdang, Putrajaya and Sg Buloh, the delivery suites and room are so beautiful and easily beat majority of the private hospitals. You have to see with your own eyes to believe it. But please expect these hospitals are always crowded. They do about 1000 deliveries per month. You cannot demand 1st class room. 1st come 1st serve basis.

As for private hospitals, the major one should be ok. I just don't encourage shoplot maternity home. The latest luxury hospital, Princecourt, I heard for an elective Cesaraen Section, it cost our famous DJ Lam Tuck Weng a whooping RM40000.00.

nckeat,

wow, RM40,000??? can deliver 10x!!! :wacko3:

can't deny, GH has got the best equipment and doctors.... but my mom will surely be the 1st to go against it.

My mom had very bad experience and perception on GH, can't blame her coz she experienced it herself. She delivered my eldest sister in HKL in the 70-ies, the treatment was so bad, the nurses were so racist and unprofessional.... She still rememebers the nurse stuffed a big piece of cotton with anti-biotic in her private part when she complained pain, and it made the wound tear..... :sauer2: She has lost confidence onto GH since then... for the next deliveries, she insisted private hospital even though that time my dad wasn't that well off. She doesn't mind to cut cost on others but not on this...

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Jacqline,

thx! yeah, i'm looking forward to this trip, at least a long break after AD....

i also hope my body is fit to conceive... will break the news if it comes true... :lol:

nckeat,

can u suggest to me which hospital i should go? i'm really lost..... I need a full service hospital. pls.... :sad:

All major public hospitals are full service hospitals which include the GHKL, Serdang GH, Putrajaya GH, Ampang GH, Kajang GH, Selayang GH and Sg Buloh GH. In fact all these hospital have individual delivery suite for the husband to accompany you. In fact some of the hospitals like Serdang, Putrajaya and Sg Buloh, the delivery suites and room are so beautiful and easily beat majority of the private hospitals. You have to see with your own eyes to believe it. But please expect these hospitals are always crowded. They do about 1000 deliveries per month. You cannot demand 1st class room. 1st come 1st serve basis.

As for private hospitals, the major one should be ok. I just don't encourage shoplot maternity home. The latest luxury hospital, Princecourt, I heard for an elective Cesaraen Section, it cost our famous DJ Lam Tuck Weng a whooping RM40000.00.

nckeat,

wow, RM40,000??? can deliver 10x!!! :wacko3:

can't deny, GH has got the best equipment and doctors.... but my mom will surely be the 1st to go against it.

My mom had very bad experience and perception on GH, can't blame her coz she experienced it herself. She delivered my eldest sister in HKL in the 70-ies, the treatment was so bad, the nurses were so racist and unprofessional.... She still rememebers the nurse stuffed a big piece of cotton with anti-biotic in her private part when she complained pain, and it made the wound tear..... :sauer2: She has lost confidence onto GH since then... for the next deliveries, she insisted private hospital even though that time my dad wasn't that well off. She doesn't mind to cut cost on others but not on this...

In those days 1 consultant take care of 15000 deliveries alone with a team of doctor. Nowadays, 1 consultant sitting in the labour room 24 hours to standby.

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nckeat,

i truely believe GH has improved a lot.... but i can't convince my mom.... even my HB also too.... :sad:

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ceetee, try bringing yr mom to Putrajaya or Serdang GH, don't tell her its govt hospital & ask if can deliver there. they look good!

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All major public hospitals are full service hospitals which include the GHKL, Serdang GH, Putrajaya GH, Ampang GH, Kajang GH, Selayang GH and Sg Buloh GH. In fact all these hospital have individual delivery suite for the husband to accompany you. In fact some of the hospitals like Serdang, Putrajaya and Sg Buloh, the delivery suites and room are so beautiful and easily beat majority of the private hospitals. You have to see with your own eyes to believe it. But please expect these hospitals are always crowded. They do about 1000 deliveries per month. You cannot demand 1st class room. 1st come 1st serve basis.

I agree. I went to Putrajaya as was refer by local klinik ( i am currently seeing private & gov as I'm havin hypertension & was recommend to do at both side by my gynae) when i reach there, i really do feel its a not a "Government" hops...it is like a private hopsital & the services are good....I was then ask to go to "ward bersalin" cos i was undert he "high risk" category due to my blood pressure....inside the ward bersalin, all the mid wives & nurses are so caring & they really make sure my pressure/ condition is ok....actually i also dunno why they ask me go to the ward...hahaha but its a good experience & i can see how they work inside....btw while i'm inside already 4 babies born (naturally) u can hear bb heart beat around u....then bb cries....Now hb & I have decided to deliver there...i'm staying in OUG ( its only take 20 min using the KL- Putrajaya highway)

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yeeyee,

looks like HUKM also not too bad.... may I know how much was your bill for Gleaneagle and HUKM? I know Gleaeagle is good, but too far.... :ohmy:

ceetee,

The billing is as below:

Gleneagles in 2003:

1) 4 days 3 nites stay in 4 persons room

2) epidural

3) C-sec

4) due to my baby is only 36 weeks, he need to be monitored but not stay in incubator

the bill is 7k+ (better check for the price now as this is few years before)

HUKMSC in 2008:

1) 1 nite stay in single room

2) epidural

3) normal birth with vacuum

the bill is almost 3k

later on found out my gal has jaundice.. so admitted to HUKM again. She stay there for 3 days for RM800.

wow! the price for HUKMSC has increase a lot wor... i gave birth there in 2006 under Dr Ng only cost me 1.8K... 1 nite stay in single room... normal birth with forcep...

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ceetee, try bringing yr mom to Putrajaya or Serdang GH, don't tell her its govt hospital & ask if can deliver there. they look good!

happi,

I've never been there, but colleague told me all the new GH looks really 5-star nowadays.... :lol:

But last night HB put his foot down.... 'no GH'.... :sad:

i think i'll need to survey HUKM 1st....

Chonglisa,

Putrajaya GH really very good service?

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Chonglisa,

Putrajaya GH really very good service?

Hi ceetee,

Well have been there twice now. the 1st time experience was in Ward Bersalin & 2nd time visit was last thrusday for clinical check up...well overall i would say the service is almost similar as private ( of cos there do have some staff who dont smile but if u ask them they will answer you) some nurses are very helpful ( i think sometimes in private hosp, some staff also not helpful ). The important thing is u dont feel like in "public" hospital..u know those creepy feeling....

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Chonglisa,

Putrajaya GH really very good service?

Hi ceetee,

Well have been there twice now. the 1st time experience was in Ward Bersalin & 2nd time visit was last thrusday for clinical check up...well overall i would say the service is almost similar as private ( of cos there do have some staff who dont smile but if u ask them they will answer you) some nurses are very helpful ( i think sometimes in private hosp, some staff also not helpful ). The important thing is u dont feel like in "public" hospital..u know those creepy feeling....

chonglisa,

hey, may i know where is Putrajaya hospital? how to go there from SILK h/way? :smile:

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Oops! so expensive already since I left that place long time ago. For those who prefer the public wing rather that the private wing, I think the cost will only 1/3 or 1/2 only.

hi nckeat,

would like to ask for your opinion, what is your overall comment on tmn desa medical centre?

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Oops! so expensive already since I left that place long time ago. For those who prefer the public wing rather that the private wing, I think the cost will only 1/3 or 1/2 only.

hi nckeat,

would like to ask for your opinion, what is your overall comment on tmn desa medical centre?

Yah, i wish to know too.... as Tmn Desa is pretty near to my house too....

but if i'm not mistaken, 1 MB commented on their nurses' service coz' mainly Malay nurses there.... (very sorry to the Malays, i'm just quoting someone's comment..)

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I doing checkup at TDMC too...under dr.loo she's patient & caring dr...well i would say the building is abit old but after seeing dr.loo, i probably get use to the environment....i have few friends had delivered there & ther's no complaint... but i still decide to go Putrajaya (save cost)

Hey Ceetee,

I'm not sure how to go using SILK..normally i use the KL-Putrajaya Highway, just follow the putrajaya sign & once u read putrajaya there will be sign "Hospital Putrajay" its quite easy to find using the highway.

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Oops! so expensive already since I left that place long time ago. For those who prefer the public wing rather that the private wing, I think the cost will only 1/3 or 1/2 only.

hi nckeat,

would like to ask for your opinion, what is your overall comment on tmn desa medical centre?

Most hospitals in private should be ok. The important thing is the hospitals must be well equipped (OT, lab, ambulance, supporting nursing team, other discipline support like surgeon etc). The O&G specialist skill is more or less the same. The deciding factor for outcome especially when serious complication happen is how well the hospital can cope. For example, when massive post parum haemorrhage happen, how fast they can run for the blood? No problem with public hospitals but in private it depend on their emergency ambulance team, their own blood bank, their anasthetist skill.

I quote you a true case that ended as maternal mortality. There was one pregnant lady with history of 2 previous cesarean section and her latest pregnancy was complicated with anterior placenta praevia (low lying placenta at the site of previous scars). This is an extremely super high risk case for an obstetrician becasue the risk is so high that there is a possible cesarean hysterectomy after cesarean section. The risk of massive post partum bleeding is extremely high. This patient was initially admitted to a major public hospital but she preferred to have the op done at a major private hospital in Klang Valley. The outcome, the patient died on operation table due to major blood loss.

The lesson is if you are in major public hospital which the blood bank is just side by side, they can run any amount of blood (my experience when I was in public hospital - 40 pints of blood, some blood was taken as far down from Seremban blood bank) in a relative short time. If you are in private hospital, this is almost impossible. Afterall the ambulance have to beat all the traffice jam in KL to get to national blood bank and fight the jam again back to hospital. This is nothing to do with the O&G specialist skill but the support service especially the blood service.

This is the reason why private specialist tend to choose the low risk cases and send all the high risk cases to public hospitals. Partly because of this, the public hospitals got a higher morbidity and thus the bad name compare to private centre.

Imagine if you deliver at those shoplot practice where there is not a even a lift to send you down when complication happen for transfer to a batter equipped hospital.

In this sense, TDMC should be ok as it is a full service hospital fro low and medium risk cases.

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ceetee,

if u come from kajang using SILK highway towards Puchong, u just go straight follow the puchong signboard until u pass by the KLIUC on ur left, shortly after tht there is a left turn to Putrajaya. You follow tht signboard it will lead u to putrajaya, pass by a bridge and then u can somehow rather find the putrajaya hospital signboard ady... :D

and if u come from puchong towards kajang using SILK..its the same thing..before u reach the kajang exit to north-south highway, on ur left got signboard exit to Putrajaya...leads to same road as above.

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nckeat,

wow, your story really 'scares' me... :ohmy:

Are u familiar with Putrajaya GH? Is the hospital as well equiped as other GH? Actually i've heard few cases of death there caused by under-equiped OT. And also inexperienced staff.... but that was like 1 year ago.... now not sure....

Shoplot MC is definitely out for me cause one of my cousins has got some bone deformation due to it.... Under-equiped MC and inexperienced Dr....

eunice,

thx very much for the direction, appreciate it... :lol:

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nckeat,

wow, your story really 'scares' me... :ohmy:

Are u familiar with Putrajaya GH? Is the hospital as well equiped as other GH? Actually i've heard few cases of death there caused by under-equiped OT. And also inexperienced staff.... but that was like 1 year ago.... now not sure....

Shoplot MC is definitely out for me cause one of my cousins has got some bone deformation due to it.... Under-equiped MC and inexperienced Dr....

eunice,

thx very much for the direction, appreciate it... :lol:

Putrajaya, Serdang, Kajang, Selayang, Sg Buloh, Klang, Ampang and KL GH are all the major public hospitals in Klang Valley. They are all well equiped. I knew most of the consultants there. Putrajaya got a few seniors consultants who are very skillful. All of them except Kajang (now left 2 specialists only] have a few very experienced consultants who can deal with serious complications. OT cannot be under equiped because their equipments are more or less the same. The difference is how fast the hospitals can get blood. ALL these hospitals have satelite blood banks well connected with the national blood bank which is situated next to GHKL.

But if you are belong to low risk group. Should be ok as long as it is a proper hospital. The advantage of private hospital is usually personal attention by the specialist.

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I echo nckeat's words. This may not be related to pregnancies and birth per se but I know of many friends who were referred to public hospitals by private practice doctors because of the high risk factor.

nckeat, how do you find UMMC? Noticed that you haven't said anything about the place. :smile:

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I echo nckeat's words. This may not be related to pregnancies and birth per se but I know of many friends who were referred to public hospitals by private practice doctors because of the high risk factor.

nckeat, how do you find UMMC? Noticed that you haven't said anything about the place. :smile:

That's the training centre (same to HUKM], what do you think? They have 2 wings. The private wing and the public wing. Both use the same facitilies but the private wing will have the specialist you chose to attend to you only.

I find that the disadvantage of training centre is they got too many layers of doctors. Starting from the junior MO than senior MO than the registrar than the specialist than the consultant. I find this system sometime cause problem because in major complication, the consultant / specialist will only be alerted LAST after all these layers of doctors. Decision and action may be late but this is rare occurence. In public hospital, usually there are only 3 layers: MO, specialist and consultant. Current trend is those specialist and consultant will stay in 24 hour to attend to patient. So from my experience, the action may be faster when complication happen.

However this maybe true many years ago when I was in there (HUKM] but the system may have changed because as I said, the standard of care have been improved. In fact in Klang GH, they have 3 teams of doctors to rotate 3 shift just in labour room. This will minimise the complication rate.

In private, of course you get personal attention because you pay for it. But sometime when the doctor is too popular hence he or she will be too busy and only see you when your baby's head is at perinuem. There will be no other doctor to attend to you except the nurse when he / she is busy seeing patient at clinic. A too busy doctor may have tendency to shorten your time for trial for vaginal delivery. That's why it is important to discuss with your doctor regarding your birth plan.

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nckeat,

We are so lucky to have you here, you really clear up lotsa our doubts.... :lol:

What's the common practice of goverment clinic for regular pregnancy check-ups? If i'm not mistaken, there isn't any U/S scan for normal monthly check-ups, scan only done at certain visit. Is this true? Is this safe? :unsure:

Btw, the wife of my subordinate had a 'miscarriage' few days ago, that was like 1 week before the feotus was due, ie end of trimester. The feotus heart just stopped beating. I'm yet to get the real reason as he's still on leave. Have you encountered this? What could be the reasons? If it's the umbilical cord that has wrapped around, shouldn't that be seen in U/S scan? :huh:

(i think i've posted too many questions... hihi... 1 more question, if u don't mind me asking, are u a bride or groom???)

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nckeat,

We are so lucky to have you here, you really clear up lotsa our doubts.... :lol:

What's the common practice of goverment clinic for regular pregnancy check-ups? If i'm not mistaken, there isn't any U/S scan for normal monthly check-ups, scan only done at certain visit. Is this true? Is this safe? :unsure:

Btw, the wife of my subordinate had a 'miscarriage' few days ago, that was like 1 week before the feotus was due, ie end of trimester. The feotus heart just stopped beating. I'm yet to get the real reason as he's still on leave. Have you encountered this? What could be the reasons? If it's the umbilical cord that has wrapped around, shouldn't that be seen in U/S scan? :huh:

(i think i've posted too many questions... hihi... 1 more question, if u don't mind me asking, are u a bride or groom???)

In gov clinic, they follow certain protocol (this is the way when you got too may patient, to avoid missing something). The KKIA will screen you for risk factors and colour code you. For those who coded green, yellow and red will be referred to see a doctor / to hospital. Colour code white is low risk.

Actually you do not need ultrasound every visit, some important one:

1. Dating scan: the 1st scan (to be done as early as possible) to determine you EDD / date is correct or not?

2. Anomaly scan / detailed scan: 18-22 weeks. To check for gross abnormality (not chromosomal abnormality).

3. Growth scan: usually 2-3 times after the anomaly scan. Maybe more if the pregnancy is high risk.

Ultrasound doesn't have radiation, is sound wave based, generally safe.

Intrauterine death in last trimester is a RARE condition. Previously when I worked in a hospital with yearly 5000 deliveries, my experience is about 2-3 cases per year. Often with high risk patients like those with high BP, diabetes, intrauterine growth restriction, postdate and very big baby. Many were unexplained. Often you need a post mortem to find out the exact cause.

Normally it is not a normal practice to look for cord round neck because this itself is a controversial issue in O&G. I am not discussing this academicly. Basically cord round neck is not really an indication to deliver. That's depend on which gestation this is found (often accidentally). If this is found before 37 week, are you going to deliver? Of course not because it's still preterm. Unless it is many times cord round neck like 3 or 4 times which doctor MAY offer operation (even this not really have strong evidence). So this is not really clear even for doctors.

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