abortion....

[aishiteru 0]

it's really hurts me alot when ppl take the decision for abortion very lightly.

before i'm ttc, i feel that abortion is just a method for couples who do not want babies.

my mind is thinking that... well if they are not ready, what to do?

but after those prenatal check up... hey.. babies is life..

they have heart beat when they are 6 weeks and start kickly actively when they are 8-10 weeks.

some can even go for abortion when baby is 4mth+!

my god!~

if u know u cant afford to have babies, please take contraceptive seriously!!

be a responsible person...

[femm22 0]

Another thing tat really make my blood boiling is when I see news on ppl throwing their babies like rubbish!! How can they do something so inhuman?

[qarezma 0]

and how about babies dying under nursery/babysitter care? what action being taken there??

one youtube video on a kitten torture gets the nation in rage, but no one says anything about this? human life is very cheap!

[meiteoh 0]

Re abortion, I used to be dead against it no matter the reason but I changed my stand when I found out that my mum had an abortion a year after she had me. She was on the IUD, got pregnant and was advised to go for a D&C. Her words then, when I first found out, was "If I hadn't done, you wouldn't have the life you have today".

So now, I'm pro-education.

A lot of people who go for abortions do it out of necessity and some out of ignorance. I know of young people who went for abortions as many as twice or thrice. They are good young people who made mistakes out of ignorance, the first time, and was cheated, the second time. The sleezybag of a boyfriend removed the condom just before he came. Is it her fault that she got pregnant again? She was 21 years old and clearly not ready for marriage let alone a child. Our sex education program is crappy - honestly. Teaching children abstainence doesn't address the important issues that comes with the act and consequences of sex. They don't know how to assert their own values onto their spouses - girls give into boys who have unprotected sex because they think it's not going to happen to them, they don't realize the realities of sex, etc. We shame the act of abortion and make it sound evil in the hopes that people stay away from them but in reality, if they don't know the consequences of it on their bodies, they wouldn't care to take preventive measures.

At the end of the day, we need better sex education and more open-ness towards things like contraception, abortion, and so forth instead of shaming the act alone in hopes that people will change.

[aishiteru 0]

seriously, i'm not sure whether they have limited knowledge about safe sex or about abortion.

if they take abortion decision lightly, eventually the contraceptive is also taken lightly.

i know someone who go for abortion 2 times just because husband refused to buy condom.

and agreed to withdrawal method but sometimes will shoot inside. She is very fertile that

one time shoot inside will get pregnant. And recently she got pregnant again and she

wants to abort but ended up she keep the baby.

1st time shame on him, 2nd time shame on her, but 3rd time???

no protection no sex, sometimes things like this cannot try luck.

[meiteoh 0]

To me, it's ignorance as well as stupidity (which comes from self-ignorance, eg you don't know to take care of your own body, etc) if you don't know how to assert your own needs onto your HB.

What I meant to say when they take things like abortion lightly is that I feel that a lot of people don't know about the consequences of abortions on their bodies. We tell people that abortion kills an unborn child but we don't explain to them what abortion really does to the woman's body or spirit. So of course, naturally, if they see being pregnant as a burden, of course they wouldn't think twice about going for an abortion. To them, getting rid of the burden is often more important. But if you tell them that an abortion increases the chances of this and that, can even affect your fertility, and physchologically, there is this issue of guilt, etc, I doubt people would still take abortion that lightly.

There is also the matter of teaching women about self-value and how important their own principles are. If you don't want to have unprotected sex, don't. Why must give into the HB or man? Why can't he make the necessary sacrifice and get a rubber?

The other issue I notice is that many couples - upon marriage - don't bother about safe sex or contraception unless you see a family planning specialist. This was very different - during my stay at the hospital after delivery, we had a visit from a family planning specialist introducing us to the various methods of contraception and even went through an open discussion, and Q&A about sex, sex life among couples and how family planning can affect that as well as if we want to have more children, etc. I found the discussion to be very refreshing and informational.

[femm22 0]

For abortions I feel there's many grey areas regarding it. So I can't say I'm 100% against it. I know some good ppl who did it n then there r those bad ppl who doesn't but chose to give birth n abuse or neglect their child. So I rather not comment.

[qarezma 0]

For abortions I feel there's many grey areas regarding it. So I can't say I'm 100% against it. I know some good ppl who did it n then there r those bad ppl who doesn't but chose to give birth n abuse or neglect their child. So I rather not comment.

you have got a valid point there.. if u think u cant afford to keep the baby, or even not in the situation to have it, might as well abort than abandon at weird places, or not give the child a good life

then again, once a mistake, better to learn from it and get educated

[fluene 0]

Don't know to get upset with people who abort more or be angry with those who kills their newborn more. Remember the case where the women stabbed her newborn baby to death? Also a week ago, came out in the news that someone flung a newborn baby from a flat. These people are sick!!

It is more heartache when you heard about people who takes abortion likely where you yourself are having trouble TTC.

[ashandrea 0]

Thought this would be an interesting read:

Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard

http://www.smh.com.au/world/jilted-exboyfr...0608-1frju.html

[Angel T 0]

Don't know to get upset with people who abort more or be angry with those who kills their newborn more. Remember the case where the women stabbed her newborn baby to death? Also a week ago, came out in the news that someone flung a newborn baby from a flat. These people are sick!!

It is more heartache when you heard about people who takes abortion likely where you yourself are having trouble TTC.

I think they hv post natal depression. It's very disheartening to hear such news.

[mermyz 0]

I think it's much easier to judge others who commit to this when we are not in their shoes. Sometimes this decision may be the best a mother can do rather than raising the child single handedlly or in a broken family. I have known some people who made this decision for reasons that I can totally understand, but what we failed to understand is that in this process, how much the mother is also hurted by the action.

[aishiteru 0]

what i failed to understand is not why they cant keep the baby...

i just failed to understand why they want to put themselves into that situation...

yes not everyone want to be in that situation, some the condom broke,

some taken pills.. IUD case which happened to my mom too.....

i'm just comment on the group of ppl.. where they are not serious with family planning method.

eg. 1

a couple using withdrawal method coz the hb refused to use condom... 1st time he break the rule

and shoot in, their parents feel that it's not the point to abort the baby when they will still together,

so ask them to get married... life is tough... so the parents have to support the grand baby.

2nd time, again the hb do it and this time the wife want abortion, coz she really no money and

she want freedom. taking care baby is not fun! So abortion No1#

after that, pregnant again... and this time the parents so worried about the wife and rejected

them to go for abortion, so force to help to take care and also support the baby no 2.

after that again, pregnant and this time the parents is burden with 2 babies, also no eyes to see them

so they just did watever they want... abortion No2#

after that again!! wife opted abortion for 3rd times due to financial problem, 1st baby the mother take care,

2nd baby the MIL take care. 3rd baby have to send to bbsitter. Can they afford? NO!

why want to put themselves into a situation where they know they cant afford??

why want to spend money on abortion rather than contraceptive??

eg 2,

both husband and wife got drunk and have sex then got pregnant at the wrong time!!

so opted for abortion.

eg. 3.

counted date wrongly.. got pregnant the wrong time.

[mermyz 0]

I think if the parents already have these kinda attitude (irresponsible husband + wife who wants freedom), better they abort or give the children away. For sure they will not take care of the children, perhaps even abuse the kids. How long can they keep relying on the grandparents to take care?

[meiteoh 0]

Hard to say coz I don't know the real situation but the grandparents bailing them out all the time doesn't help the situation at all. They are just spoiling these "kids". =.=

[aishiteru 0]

seriously... they have this kind of attitude that

after pregnant.. go for abortion...

if u all dont agreed... u take care la..

[wong111 0]

what i failed to understand is not why they cant keep the baby...

i just failed to understand why they want to put themselves into that situation...

yes not everyone want to be in that situation, some the condom broke,

some taken pills.. IUD case which happened to my mom too.....

i'm just comment on the group of ppl.. where they are not serious with family planning method.

eg. 1

a couple using withdrawal method coz the hb refused to use condom... 1st time he break the rule

and shoot in, their parents feel that it's not the point to abort the baby when they will still together,

so ask them to get married... life is tough... so the parents have to support the grand baby.

2nd time, again the hb do it and this time the wife want abortion, coz she really no money and

she want freedom. taking care baby is not fun! So abortion No1#

after that, pregnant again... and this time the parents so worried about the wife and rejected

them to go for abortion, so force to help to take care and also support the baby no 2.

after that again, pregnant and this time the parents is burden with 2 babies, also no eyes to see them

so they just did watever they want... abortion No2#

after that again!! wife opted abortion for 3rd times due to financial problem, 1st baby the mother take care,

2nd baby the MIL take care. 3rd baby have to send to bbsitter. Can they afford? NO!

why want to put themselves into a situation where they know they cant afford??

why want to spend money on abortion rather than contraceptive??

eg 2,

both husband and wife got drunk and have sex then got pregnant at the wrong time!!

so opted for abortion.

eg. 3.

counted date wrongly.. got pregnant the wrong time.

I do understanding how frustrated you are with those person..I do facing someone like that...she is my family member. I been clicking on reply for twice (this is second time I click it), I am dilemma whether want to share this here as she is my closest family member.

First time happened when she been cheated that the man want to marry her but end up that just a trick to stop her from seperated with him. That's I consider woman should know no matter what we should wait until both are at least register before any action as we are the one who carry a life not man. We should know how to protect ourselves. (As I being keep on mentioned by her that how lucky I am to met my HB and she is not)

Second time I think after a year later or half year for that she suddenly told us that she was pregnant again with her new bf, at that time their relationship still not stable yet or can said almost break up. Same like what aishiteru mentioned she blamed the man who never keep his promise and break the rule. ( but I keep on asking so why they not using condom, so expensive or hard to get one?? if so expensive to get one do they ever think if SO LUCKY they make it, raising a kid or abortion is much more expensive than either one) So until the day she get married also she keep on blaming is the man fault not her as she has nothing to do with this... :wacko3:

And this is the attitude she keep until now...baby born and financially not stable or I can said so many debt both husband and wife so end up baby now with MIL. Lately I been told that she got pregnant again...Oh my the first baby just 10 months..and another things more shock is she is taking some kind of pills that is totally no pregnant, once stop at least 4 months the gap to be or else baby will either deaf, mental retarded, blind, etc...and she only stop for two weeks...oh my...she keep on giving me excuse that: ya lar..I should be more cautions as after delivery within one year women will be so fertile and she always one time she will kena...( so unfair everytime I listen to this as so many women are not like her or even can't have any baby, for myself I TTC for one year to have my lil one and totally different from her) the next day she told me that her period just suddenly came. Haiii...I really don't know what to say...

I know some woman is really have to to this but if you keep on repeat it, it will become a solution everytime the same thing happen. I did have a siblings that deadly wants a kid but she can't have it so she is going for adoption, sometime things just happen in a different way we want it. Is also better if parents are not ready to just choose abortion, if baby born, sooner or later they will feel bored with the baby, so what for a life being born but not being raise properly.

[aishiteru 0]

yes!

exactly!

abortion is a solution, but prevention is the best rite??

dont la after kena, then only cry cry..worried, nobody take care la.. financial cannot cope la etc.. and then go for abortion..

but do that time got think or not??

[wong111 0]

Sometimes some harsh words I want to use, is it after fun responsibility no need to take?? Is it really so fun until forget everything?? Hah...I do think those people is they doesn't really like children..as I mentioned before she is that kind of person. When she is happy she will cuddle her son but when mood not in she will lost temper. Example she did told me before that when she is alone with baby at home and baby is crying she will lost temper and will slap baby thighsthighs, when that time baby only 3 or 4 months...baby didn't know anything at all...