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Hi guys! I need advise. I was thinking of burning Cds compiled with the songs that will be played during my wedding reception and then giving them out as wedding favours. I just worry that i will have legal issues, u know? i mean it'll be like pirated cd.. but the thing is.. it is not for sale but thank you gifts. Just that my guests can play the songs anywhere in the car or home and it's pretty personal as the songs are personally selected so is pretty meaningful gua...

Some of my frenz said i might have legal issues with piracy as the issue, so i need advise, wouldn't wanna get slapped by a lawsuit right after my wedding :blink: Maybe i'm thinking too much but is no harm getting second opinions. :rolleyes:

I've checked online and this type of wedding favour is pretty popular overseas. hehe..

Thanks guys!!!

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wah kellysiew

how many tables u booked for ur wedding??

more than 500 guesst...........really alots wor....

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aspen,

No doubt it is a good idea but that is considers as illegal act as you are duplicate and distribute.

I know some people duplicate their montage and give it as wedding favour to their guests, thus they do not need to print their photos to their guests.

kellysiew,

Actually duplicating CD (either songs/photos) won't take you for long time and is cheap too :P 1 pc of CD less than RM1, but if you buy in bulk lagi cheap :P

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Hi, all.

I just checked with my former assistant's hubby. He works with the Ministry that does enforcement on pirated cd/vcd/dvd (if im not mistaken, it's kementerian perdagangan dan hal ehwal pengguna). According to him, there's no harm burning cd & distribute them as wedding favour. As long as they are not for sale & dont contain any porno stuff. In fact, i'm planning to do the same for my wedding next year as it's cool & not that costly :) . A blank cd costs less than rm1 & the case costs rm 0.70 the most (price stated is kuching price. not sure about elsewhere). Like what BG have said, price can be nego esp when we buy in bulk. To be safe, maybe we can state on our cd or its case that the cd is a gift & not for sale.

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wah...good to hear tat we can distribute the cd as wedding favour. hi, can we print our wedding photo on the CD and instead of print out on the paper and insert into the case.

hi aspen, i can use ur idea as my wedding favour too... never thnk of it aso leh... thx for sharing :P

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wow.. then this is a really really good idea.. :)

i think thats what Im gonna do also...

question.. (im such a IT illeterate)

can we burn a CD which contain pictures, and songs, yet when play the CD in the car, can hear just the songs? when watch on PC or TV, can see the pics?

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Sweetie,

I've asked a shop that sells IT stuff. There's a type of paper that is called cd label paper & it costs about rm0.40 per piece (1 piece of paper contains 2 cd label). It's like a sticker in cd shape. You can print on that paper & stick it on ur cd. However, u need a software to design ur cd cover. I believe software for burning cd has that feature e.g. Nero. Too bad I havent try to do cd cover. I usually burn/copy cd. For cheaper option, you can print on normal paper but you must know the setting (i also never done this before but have received few CDs which cover was done in such a way). The outcome is not as good as the cd label. I've attended a wedding in Jakarta few years back. The bride & groom also used cd as wedding favour. They had their names, date of AD, venue & the note 'tidak diperjualbelikan, hanya untuk souvenir' directly 'imprinted' on the cd. So, I think it is possible for you to put your wedding pic on the cd. Im not sure how much will that cost.

May,

Not sure whether you do that with your cd player in the car but in pc, definitely can. You can burn anything into the cd. You can only view/hear the cd if your player can 'read' it. Perhaps other MB members can help to clarify this.

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Hi guys!!

Firstly, Casperina, thanks for checking the legal issues.

I'm so glad it's ok to do this as a wedding favour. I know it's a really personal gift, with all the songs that are meaningful to the bride and groom. I would like it if i got it as a gift and best of all.. there won't be clashes. i mean every couple have different taste and preference in music, this would make a perfect gift and it is one of a kind. Of course it would be quite a hassle to do this. I will be having abt 300 guests. But hey that's fine, that's the additional emotional gift i'm giving my guests.

Glad you guys liked the idea :D

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hmm..sorry to potong steam, but honestly I'm still not too sure if songs are really allowed to be distributed without selling.

It's the same thing with downloading from the internet. They are not selling but just sharing the songs to be downloaded. or in other words, distributing without selling it too. FYI, that is illegal.

Anyway it's just a thought tho. I don't think so anything bad will happen but just to be on the safe side. :)

Unless someone you're inviting is working with a recording company such as EMI. :D

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i agreed with justin.

songs shouldnt be put in for safe side. furthermore if u intend to do so, u have to pay the copyright of the song. and if that song is download from the internet then even worst.

currently there is some case here in UK regarding those uploading games case. i'm not out of topic, it's just that i learn that those who downloading also wrong and will faced charges, so scared that your guest will also be in trouble next time.

think twice if u intend to put in the song. photo itself is ok as u already pay for the copyright to the BS.

Good Luck

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hi!! i did tot abt that problem which was why i started this topic. hehe :P . *sigh* back to the drawing board now i guess. anywayz thanks for your advice guys. really appreciate it. :D anyone have ideas for diy wedding favors?

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Hey girls,

I have asked a lawyer fren of mine regarding this issue.... i just cut and paste her reply to me ya..... see any comment frm u all...... as she stated sounded very serious offence if we do so.... scare me... even just to play songs in the reception nite :(

"OK, your cd issues...sad to say...first look...got potential issues already. now questions and some pointers for jia (tat's me!)....

1. who wrote those songs....the lyrics and then the music...2 or more different people ahhh most of the time.

2. who sang and played the musics for the songs?

3. when was it published..i.e..date of CD.

4. Is the singer, lyricist, music writer, music performer (i.e the band) all alive? (Which means copyright still going. You need permission. If they are dead - (all of them- for more than 50 years) then some of the parts may be copyright free - public lah. BUT- most of the time, a company owns all the copyrights to the song because they bought it, then if they reissue it, they have new copyrights - so if you're copying that particular copy - you'll breach copyright, even if you don't, say you use a very old version, chances are, you might be caught for using the lyrics, and/ or performing the songs (if you sing it yourself say).....

5. If you want to get permission, it would take a long time, because you'll need to find the association who represents them, or look up the performer, find out who has copyright(s) of which part of the materials - then contact them all or through an association if there's one that represents them, and ask for permission or pay for a license to use it (i.e to put into CDs - each CD currently means a copy, hence require a license itself)

6. you may wonder, why making my own compilation is so difficult? Other than that mentioned in 1-5, the other reason is, not many singers etc....permits their work (the songs) to be made into a compilation - that's why sometimes, those (NOW, HOT 20 etc CDs) always have songs you like and dislike.....

So since this is all off the cuff...further research may be required if you're thinking of proceeding with the idea.......clear now? And yes, copying for lela (my fren that requested my MV n cartoon animations) means breach of copyright...even if you're not selling it....coz you're copying it....actually even putting it from your CD onto your computer is also breach of copyright already....

oh yeah, public performance - i.e putting music in office say or while you're having a party at the hotel, all needs to pay licence....this i have to check further but generally that is the stand. If closed door, say you girls come over for a pyjama party, i play you the cds i have bought, that's ok lah....

did you notice that nowadays most of the offices, shopping complexes, restaurants, hotels rarely if ever play any songs? If radio..can, so the other option is get the Radio to broadcast for you :-P if you can manage. .......last time two tshung tshin students ( high school students frm my hometown)performed a fav pop song for a singing competition in school, officers came and informed them they have breached copyight and they have to pay fines.....I don't know how it went, but i think they paid.....quite a bit.......so....situation is not ideal, but that's the current situation with copyright...."

ok girls, this are the reply frm my frens... is that means i cannot play cd songs during my reception nite as i dun plan to hire any live band?

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dreamaries79,

thanks for clarifying us on this matter. however, it still bugs my mind. does this also stand for performance for private function such as wedding reception? if im not mistaken (stated somewhere in this thread), a MB member has checked it out that we dont need licence for singers/bands to perform during our reception. Gosh... im so confused. how leh? :(

aspen,

i'm sorry for letting your hopes high. guess that we have to discard the idea of giving away cds. i'm not sure why did the enforcement officer tell me that it's ok to do so when i asked him yesterday. sigh...... well, better be safe rather being slapped with fine or worst being summoned to court after the wedding. i'll go for my wedding favour option no.2 i.e. keychains with my wedding pic & thank you note inside.

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casperina,

to answer your doubt, whether we need to pay the licence for the singers/bands to perform in a close door function? yes you have to, yesterday we just met the event planner for our annual dinner, he told us we need to apply for the licence for the band to play the jazz songs/musics throughout the night. It is not cheap though .. RM6k :o :blink: otherwise you can go for the risk, not to apply and ahead with the band performance.

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so, how? no cds or live bands for wedding receptions without licence. karaoke wouldnt guarantee an enjoyable & memorable wedding reception. me & FH wouldnt want to spent RM6k just to get the licence. :( sigh... Guess that i'll call the ministry again once im back to work next week. wat say u, BG? wat do you plan to have for ur AD reception next year?

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i think its called MACP lisence. most hotel and function halls have them already.. so its covered... to be safe, check with them 1st loh...

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Hello,

I thought of doing that too for my wedding event. We planned to have 550 cds, as I'm having about 55 tables. I've been getting quote from various company and the cheapest I can get is RM 2.50 per piece (CD + Copy CD File + Artcard envelope). You can burn yourself, but your burner might wear out after you've been accessively used it. It cost you $$$ too. SO, it's better to have soembody to do the job.

But I have to forgo this idea, due to the legal issues. We don't want to get sue after the dinner. Buta buta have to pay summone. It costs even more!

Has been getting advises from different people (my band, my printer, friends and etc). Some said it's Ok for closed door event as long as there is no one from entertainment industry, some said it's illegal and we might be in trouble later on. We know our friends well but not our parents' friends. Just don't want to take the risk!

Moreover, when I think deeper...it's kind of waste. For younger crowds, yes...they would like CD and will listen to it. What about for those older generations or even kids? Would they really appreciate the CD? Hmm...not too sure. At least giving out chocolates, everyone will eat it! hahaha

Anyway, it's up to the couple to decide. I am kidda sad to drop this as my wedding favor, but also happy that I can save up the money for other purposes, eg more shopping!

For those who wants some CD duplication company contacts, please let me know ya.

Thanks.

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Casperina,

I will have chinese orchestral performance for my AD's dinner, for the MACP license, still unsure about that.

May,

yup you are right, it is MACP license and the weird part here is .. Hotel is paying for the license yet we still need to get the license for the band, weird isn't it?? we also don't understand what is the purpose of doing it and yet it needs RM6k :blink: really mata julin lah.

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dreamaries79,

thanks for clarifying us on this matter. however, it still bugs my mind. does this also stand for performance for private function such as wedding reception? if im not mistaken (stated somewhere in this thread), a MB member has checked it out that we dont need licence for singers/bands to perform during our reception. Gosh... im so confused. how leh? :(

aspen,

i'm sorry for letting your hopes high. guess that we have to discard the idea of giving away cds. i'm not sure why did the enforcement officer tell me that it's ok to do so when i asked him yesterday. sigh...... well, better be safe rather being slapped with fine or worst being summoned to court after the wedding. i'll go for my wedding favour option no.2 i.e. keychains with my wedding pic & thank you note inside.

casperina, is ok. i never tot it was so complicated. i'll look for alternative favors la.. hehe. hey that means alot of ppl, well all the weddings i attended have breached copyright issues la :rolleyes: . nvm girls, we all "chai chai" kena slapped with fine after wedding.. hehe kidding :D anywayz no worries, we just have to look for other options.. but hey at least we all know how serious this can get right? :P

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Casperina,

I will have chinese orchestral performance for my AD's dinner, for the MACP license, still unsure about that.

May,

yup you are right, it is MACP license and the weird part here is .. Hotel is paying for the license yet we still need to get the license for the band, weird isn't it?? we also don't understand what is the purpose of doing it and yet it needs RM6k :blink: really mata julin lah.

Hi May, I was also thinking of getting a chinese orchestral performance as my theme will be very traditional chinese. May i know who u hired and how much they'd cost?

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aspen,

I think you are refering to me ah? :)

I'm from Kuching, I might getting the chung hua school chinese orchestral band, not too sure yet.

today I check with my colleage on the MACP license fee, ok is not RM6k (but I saw the quotation is RM6k) is about RM1.5k for MACP and PPM (I think is this abbreviation). If you are worry about this, I think you better find out the rate and also found out from your restaurant if you would like to have a live band performance. :)

Casperina,

I will have chinese orchestral performance for my AD's dinner, for the MACP license, still unsure about that.

May,

yup you are right, it is MACP license and the weird part here is .. Hotel is paying for the license yet we still need to get the license for the band, weird isn't it?? we also don't understand what is the purpose of doing it and yet it needs RM6k :blink: really mata julin lah.

Hi May, I was also thinking of getting a chinese orchestral performance as my theme will be very traditional chinese. May i know who u hired and how much they'd cost?

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