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Thanks bunnyNwife. We are comfortable with Dr. Christina but I would really want to go thru normal (vaginal) birth if I can. Please share your view, should I discuss this with Dr. Christina during my next visit or should I stay on till week 20?

You should discuss with her. Ask her whether you should go with other gynae or stay on with her till week 20.

Since you want vaginal delivery, I would recommend you to go with other gynae so that you can have the same gynae throughout the whole pregnancy. I bet you wont change your mind abt vaginal delivery by week 20 and should you ever end up with c-sec, most likely it's emergency c-sec. There is no reason for you to stay with Dr Christina unless you havent make up your mind. Majority of her patients are those already know for sure that they wanna a selective c-sec.

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Thanks bunnyNwife, would you know any good gynae in SJMC that does normal (vaginal) birth? It's such a pity, both me and my hubby are getting very comfortable with Dr. Christina Tai.

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Thanks bunnyNwife, would you know any good gynae in SJMC that does normal (vaginal) birth? It's such a pity, both me and my hubby are getting very comfortable with Dr. Christina Tai.

Assuming you prefers female gynae:

Lotsa members & including my childhood friend have good remarks on Dr Tang Boon Nee - support vaginal birth, reasonable delivery fee, friendly, etc. If you want a more experience gynae, then try Dr Siti.

Tell Dr Christina your birth plan and ask for her opinion. She is pretty open about it.

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Thanks bunnyNwife, would you know any good gynae in SJMC that does normal (vaginal) birth? It's such a pity, both me and my hubby are getting very comfortable with Dr. Christina Tai.

Assuming you prefers female gynae:

Lotsa members & including my childhood friend have good remarks on Dr Tang Boon Nee - support vaginal birth, reasonable delivery fee, friendly, etc. If you want a more experience gynae, then try Dr Siti.

Tell Dr Christina your birth plan and ask for her opinion. She is pretty open about it.

Thank you so much bunnyNwife. My next appointment is early next year, will speak to Dr. Christina about it. Thank you once again :)

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My facial lady recommends me Dr Eugene from UM Hosp... private section... but i always have doubt la... cos u know la UM... but she went thru her operation and everything she 100% recommends him... he even gave his private number to his clients and if they feel uncomfy they can call him and ask how ar how ar... so she said she really recommend... and she said this doc always full his appointment... i tot of checking him out 6 mths be4 my AD... just to preparemyself to get pregnant hehehe

I have been to see Dr. Eugene. He is very good. Yes, he has lots of patients but he asked me to come very early on Sat so that I can pop in as the 1st patient and no need to wait so long. He is actually a lecturer in UM. Besides UMSC, he also serves in UMMC which charges much less than UMSC. UMSC is the private section while UMMC is unedr government. Basically, UMMC and UMSC is in the same building. Dr. Eugene doesn't mind to have his patients going from UMSC to UMMC. He earns much more if the patient is under UMSC but he is an ethical dr. Gave me his provate num too. My colleague's mother had her operation done by Dr. Eugene. Highly recommended him. That's how I get to know of this Dr.

One more thing. Do not under estimate Dr. that serves as lecturers in universities. They have more experience that private dr. Being a lecturer, they are more up to date with the latest research, treatment, etc

Hi Fluene,

May I know how do I get in touch with Dr . Eugene? Am seeing other gynae now but not really happy with his work ethics..

Look forward to hear from you.

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Hi! I'm new here. Do you know any good ob/gyne specializing in fertility and probably have a background on diabetic patients in Ipoh, Perak?

I'll appreciate any suggestions or recommendations. Thanks! :wink:

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Hi Fluene,

May I know how do I get in touch with Dr . Eugene? Am seeing other gynae now but not really happy with his work ethics..

Look forward to hear from you.

Dr. Eugene's clinic hours in UMSC is Wed 2pm - 8pm, Sat 9am - 1pm. You can call UMSC general line to make appointment.

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Sad story but true. Penang is one of the states in Malaysia with most number of private hospitals but in reality unintended incident and complications do happen even in private hospitals. This is why O&G is the field with highest medicolegal cases as mortality and morbidity is difficult to be tolerated.

妻血崩死男嬰夭折

夫痛斥私人醫院疏忽(大山腳22日訊)疑醫生疏忽,一名華裔婦女在生產過程中,因羊胎水入肺及血崩而死亡,可憐的是,其出世不到48小時的男嬰,也因心律不整而去世!承受雙重打擊的少婦丈夫陳通煌(37歲)聲稱,太太不幸產后身亡,兒子出世兩天后夭折,都是醫生疏忽所致。

來自大山腳柔魯花園的死者丈大陳通煌,因不滿醫生疏忽,今日在岳母方賽娥(60歲)陪同下,向大山腳國會議員章瑛投訴,並召開記者會講述事件。

陳通煌說,他和妻子陳寶碹(34歲)于去年11月結婚,婚后不到一年,其太太就懷孕,預產期為今年9月28日。

醫生護士沒向妻子施救

他說,妻子于10月2日下午4時,進入檳島一家私人專科醫院待產時,由于無法自然生產,醫生尋求他的意見后,決定以催生方式來助產。

他指出,在生產過程中,妻子痛苦掙扎,現場卻沒有其他醫生或護士施救,只顧及搶救剛出世,且心律不整的男嬰,卻忽略了妻子的危險處境。

他說,妻子幾經痛苦才把男嬰生下,不及一個半小時,卻因子宮流血不止及羊胎水入肺而在產婦房逝世。

陳氏說,他早就為兒子取名宗翔,然而兒子活不到48小時,也隨著母親離開人間。

他說,該專科醫院在設備和醫務人員的素質,令人沮喪和失望。

他也說,針對這起事件,他將尋求律師的意見,然后才決定是否要採取法律行動,起訴有關專科醫院和醫生。

大山腳區國會議員章瑛吁請政府醫院及私人專科醫院醫生和醫務人員,必須專業處理病人和產婦緊急拯救工作,避免造成傷亡。

她在在記者會上說,根據世界衛生組織的調查報告,每年有超過50萬名孕婦在生產過程中不幸失救而逝世,也有超過2000萬名產婦在生產過后患上憂鬱症。

她說,令人驚訝的是,全球每年有超過40萬名嬰兒在出世不超過28天,就因缺氧或受到細菌感染而不幸逝世。

她也說,我國每10萬名產婦中,就有41名因難產或其他因素死亡。

院方拒回應

被指疏忽的私人醫院院方,至今不願接受媒體訪問。

記者週二致電向院方公關部尋求聯絡,希望院方高層能針對疏忽致命的指控回應,但院方經理部負責人始終不願對此事回應。

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apple626,

hi...i used to see dr guna for some complication/life saving situation. he was indeed very good. he and dato siva are both highly recommended gyneas in DSH. they charge about rm160 per visit, normal visit, do ultra scan, etc.

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Sad story but true. Penang is one of the states in Malaysia with most number of private hospitals but in reality unintended incident and complications do happen even in private hospitals. This is why O&G is the field with highest medicolegal cases as mortality and morbidity is difficult to be tolerated.

妻血崩死男嬰夭折

夫痛斥私人醫院疏忽(大山腳22日訊)疑醫生疏忽,一名華裔婦女在生產過程中,因羊胎水入肺及血崩而死亡,可憐的是,其出世不到48小時的男嬰,也因心律不整而去世!承受雙重打擊的少婦丈夫陳通煌(37歲)聲稱,太太不幸產后身亡,兒子出世兩天后夭折,都是醫生疏忽所致。

來自大山腳柔魯花園的死者丈大陳通煌,因不滿醫生疏忽,今日在岳母方賽娥(60歲)陪同下,向大山腳國會議員章瑛投訴,並召開記者會講述事件。

陳通煌說,他和妻子陳寶碹(34歲)于去年11月結婚,婚后不到一年,其太太就懷孕,預產期為今年9月28日。

醫生護士沒向妻子施救

他說,妻子于10月2日下午4時,進入檳島一家私人專科醫院待產時,由于無法自然生產,醫生尋求他的意見后,決定以催生方式來助產。

他指出,在生產過程中,妻子痛苦掙扎,現場卻沒有其他醫生或護士施救,只顧及搶救剛出世,且心律不整的男嬰,卻忽略了妻子的危險處境。

他說,妻子幾經痛苦才把男嬰生下,不及一個半小時,卻因子宮流血不止及羊胎水入肺而在產婦房逝世。

陳氏說,他早就為兒子取名宗翔,然而兒子活不到48小時,也隨著母親離開人間。

他說,該專科醫院在設備和醫務人員的素質,令人沮喪和失望。

他也說,針對這起事件,他將尋求律師的意見,然后才決定是否要採取法律行動,起訴有關專科醫院和醫生。

大山腳區國會議員章瑛吁請政府醫院及私人專科醫院醫生和醫務人員,必須專業處理病人和產婦緊急拯救工作,避免造成傷亡。

她在在記者會上說,根據世界衛生組織的調查報告,每年有超過50萬名孕婦在生產過程中不幸失救而逝世,也有超過2000萬名產婦在生產過后患上憂鬱症。

她說,令人驚訝的是,全球每年有超過40萬名嬰兒在出世不超過28天,就因缺氧或受到細菌感染而不幸逝世。

她也說,我國每10萬名產婦中,就有41名因難產或其他因素死亡。

院方拒回應

被指疏忽的私人醫院院方,至今不願接受媒體訪問。

記者週二致電向院方公關部尋求聯絡,希望院方高層能針對疏忽致命的指控回應,但院方經理部負責人始終不願對此事回應。

this is so sad! can we know which hospital is this?

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Hi, mums, dads and parents to be,

Today I manage to find some free time to go through some of the forum topics and came across this one which I find intresting and informatic. (would have help a lot if people tell us which are the bad doc to avoid too)

Since some of us really rely on the recommendations and words from the horses' mouths in forums so i guess i just "tumpang" here to share my experience with my gynea.Dr. Mak Foo Sing...i would said avoid him..unless you need IVF.. so far I only read people commented he is good for IVF..

He totally ignore your interest although you may convey your intends since the begining..(yup I started seeing him from the begining..and hated myself for it)..and then last minutes he is all for himself let a lone a total "change face" when you are on the bed for labour..

To read on on what has happened to me try the below thread/link...

http://www.malaysiabrides.com/forum/index....showtopic=17746

Good Luck to all...

Cindy

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Hi all,

Can anyone share your experience and recommendation for the delivery gynae in any hospitals/clinics at Penang?

Thanks!

Hi, Rosayee,

I am a Penangnite who moved to PJ three years ago. You can try to see Dr. Ng from Tanjung Medical Centre. He's previously attached with Adventist but is now in Tanjung. I heard that the consultation fee is very reasonable.

I delivered my 2nd baby in Adventist in year 2006 at very reasonable cost. I chose Adventist because it's a baby-friendly hospital, economical and Dr. Ng pro vaginal delivery, is patient-friendly, and not so commercialized. However, when I went back to Adventist mid this year for a normal pregnancy check-up, the cost was unexpectedly higher than before (under a different doctor) as the lady doctor gave me multi-vitamins which I think I could buy my own or do without. This makes me feel that they no longer put the interest of the patients as their priority but merely want to make more money.

I delivered my first baby in GMC in 2004, under Dr. Gan (famous for IVF & other methods) which is a No-No as she's not patient-friendly at all. The consultation fees is much higher than the rest of the hospitals in Penang (but maybe comparable to those in KL/PJ). The service was not good as they were short of staff. My total charges for emergency caesarian was also very high.

Another economical hospital is Lam Wah Ee as its establishment is meant for the poor.

Hope this helps.

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Sad story but true. Penang is one of the states in Malaysia with most number of private hospitals but in reality unintended incident and complications do happen even in private hospitals. This is why O&G is the field with highest medicolegal cases as mortality and morbidity is difficult to be tolerated.

妻血崩死男嬰夭折

夫痛斥私人醫院疏忽(大山腳22日訊)疑醫生疏忽,一名華裔婦女在生產過程中,因羊胎水入肺及血崩而死亡,可憐的是,其出世不到48小時的男嬰,也因心律不整而去世!承受雙重打擊的少婦丈夫陳通煌(37歲)聲稱,太太不幸產后身亡,兒子出世兩天后夭折,都是醫生疏忽所致。

來自大山腳柔魯花園的死者丈大陳通煌,因不滿醫生疏忽,今日在岳母方賽娥(60歲)陪同下,向大山腳國會議員章瑛投訴,並召開記者會講述事件。

陳通煌說,他和妻子陳寶碹(34歲)于去年11月結婚,婚后不到一年,其太太就懷孕,預產期為今年9月28日。

醫生護士沒向妻子施救

他說,妻子于10月2日下午4時,進入檳島一家私人專科醫院待產時,由于無法自然生產,醫生尋求他的意見后,決定以催生方式來助產。

他指出,在生產過程中,妻子痛苦掙扎,現場卻沒有其他醫生或護士施救,只顧及搶救剛出世,且心律不整的男嬰,卻忽略了妻子的危險處境。

他說,妻子幾經痛苦才把男嬰生下,不及一個半小時,卻因子宮流血不止及羊胎水入肺而在產婦房逝世。

陳氏說,他早就為兒子取名宗翔,然而兒子活不到48小時,也隨著母親離開人間。

他說,該專科醫院在設備和醫務人員的素質,令人沮喪和失望。

他也說,針對這起事件,他將尋求律師的意見,然后才決定是否要採取法律行動,起訴有關專科醫院和醫生。

大山腳區國會議員章瑛吁請政府醫院及私人專科醫院醫生和醫務人員,必須專業處理病人和產婦緊急拯救工作,避免造成傷亡。

她在在記者會上說,根據世界衛生組織的調查報告,每年有超過50萬名孕婦在生產過程中不幸失救而逝世,也有超過2000萬名產婦在生產過后患上憂鬱症。

她說,令人驚訝的是,全球每年有超過40萬名嬰兒在出世不超過28天,就因缺氧或受到細菌感染而不幸逝世。

她也說,我國每10萬名產婦中,就有41名因難產或其他因素死亡。

院方拒回應

被指疏忽的私人醫院院方,至今不願接受媒體訪問。

記者週二致電向院方公關部尋求聯絡,希望院方高層能針對疏忽致命的指控回應,但院方經理部負責人始終不願對此事回應。

Sorry, can't read Chinese. Is this available in English?

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Sad story but true. Penang is one of the states in Malaysia with most number of private hospitals but in reality unintended incident and complications do happen even in private hospitals. This is why O&G is the field with highest medicolegal cases as mortality and morbidity is difficult to be tolerated.

妻血崩死男嬰夭折

夫痛斥私人醫院疏忽(大山腳22日訊)疑醫生疏忽,一名華裔婦女在生產過程中,因羊胎水入肺及血崩而死亡,可憐的是,其出世不到48小時的男嬰,也因心律不整而去世!承受雙重打擊的少婦丈夫陳通煌(37歲)聲稱,太太不幸產后身亡,兒子出世兩天后夭折,都是醫生疏忽所致。

來自大山腳柔魯花園的死者丈大陳通煌,因不滿醫生疏忽,今日在岳母方賽娥(60歲)陪同下,向大山腳國會議員章瑛投訴,並召開記者會講述事件。

陳通煌說,他和妻子陳寶碹(34歲)于去年11月結婚,婚后不到一年,其太太就懷孕,預產期為今年9月28日。

醫生護士沒向妻子施救

他說,妻子于10月2日下午4時,進入檳島一家私人專科醫院待產時,由于無法自然生產,醫生尋求他的意見后,決定以催生方式來助產。

他指出,在生產過程中,妻子痛苦掙扎,現場卻沒有其他醫生或護士施救,只顧及搶救剛出世,且心律不整的男嬰,卻忽略了妻子的危險處境。

他說,妻子幾經痛苦才把男嬰生下,不及一個半小時,卻因子宮流血不止及羊胎水入肺而在產婦房逝世。

陳氏說,他早就為兒子取名宗翔,然而兒子活不到48小時,也隨著母親離開人間。

他說,該專科醫院在設備和醫務人員的素質,令人沮喪和失望。

他也說,針對這起事件,他將尋求律師的意見,然后才決定是否要採取法律行動,起訴有關專科醫院和醫生。

大山腳區國會議員章瑛吁請政府醫院及私人專科醫院醫生和醫務人員,必須專業處理病人和產婦緊急拯救工作,避免造成傷亡。

她在在記者會上說,根據世界衛生組織的調查報告,每年有超過50萬名孕婦在生產過程中不幸失救而逝世,也有超過2000萬名產婦在生產過后患上憂鬱症。

她說,令人驚訝的是,全球每年有超過40萬名嬰兒在出世不超過28天,就因缺氧或受到細菌感染而不幸逝世。

她也說,我國每10萬名產婦中,就有41名因難產或其他因素死亡。

院方拒回應

被指疏忽的私人醫院院方,至今不願接受媒體訪問。

記者週二致電向院方公關部尋求聯絡,希望院方高層能針對疏忽致命的指控回應,但院方經理部負責人始終不願對此事回應。

Was this the news that came out recently in the Chinese Press, where the wife was about 34 and the husband, a few years older plus expecting first child. I was chatting with my one of wife Gynae just last week and the Gynae said that this was an unfortunate incident but he told me the following (not sure its true or not since I can't read chinese).

(i) Mother was already more then 1 week past EDD

(ii) Mother still wanted natural birth

(iii) Mother wanted to induce as she wanted Natural Birth

(iv) Gynae had adviced C-Section one week past EDD, may not be adviceable to induce and try natural birth

May the mother and child be reunited in the after world.

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Was this the news that came out recently in the Chinese Press, where the wife was about 34 and the husband, a few years older plus expecting first child. I was chatting with my one of wife Gynae just last week and the Gynae said that this was an unfortunate incident but he told me the following (not sure its true or not since I can't read chinese).

(i) Mother was already more then 1 week past EDD

(ii) Mother still wanted natural birth

(iii) Mother wanted to induce as she wanted Natural Birth

(iv) Gynae had adviced C-Section one week past EDD, may not be adviceable to induce and try natural birth

May the mother and child be reunited in the after world.

(i) Mother was already more then 1 week past EDD

Nothing wrong with this as 10% of pregnant ladies will go beyong EDD and you can allow up to 7-9 days after EDD provided the fetus condition is good after assessment.

(ii) Mother still wanted natural birth

No reason to object natural birth despite postdate

(iii) Mother wanted to induce as she wanted Natural Birth

This is a correct decision as post date IS NOT an indication for cesarean section. Induction is a good decision to aim for vaginal deilivery as this is the safer mode of delivery for the mother.

(iv) Gynae had adviced C-Section one week past EDD, may not be adviceable to induce and try natural birth

The advise for C section is certainly not due to post date but could be other factor such as big baby, intrauterine growth restriction, abnormal position which the preferred mode of delivery is C section.

Conclusion: Don't mistaken that postdate is a bad thing as EDD is just a guide for the doctor to monitor the growth of the baby and progress of pregnancy. It doesn't mean the baby must be out by EDD. It also certainly not mean after EDD, the baby will be in bad condition.

This patient died from postpartum haemorrhage (PPH) which C section certainly carries much more risk compare to vaginal delivery. Nothing to do with postdate.

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Thanks for the explaination. As I layman, I have 0% on what Postpartum Haemorrhage is but after searching on the Internet, I have a 0.5% understanding. Of course, reading stuff on the Internet can never be compared to going to medical school. It seems to be leading cause of maternal mortality and I suppose, the most important is whether her physican could have dignosed it in time and took the necessary measures. However, any idea why the Baby did not make it too?

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/796785-overview

I have spoken to a few gynaes (when my wife was expecting) and although all of them say that "natural birth" is always the prefered option as it has been the natural way and through thousands of years of evolution, the female body can take it. However, all these gynaes also say that there are many unpredictable elements in a Natural Birth and a C-Section is somehow more under their control.

Happy New Year.

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Thanks for the explaination. As I layman, I have 0% on what Postpartum Haemorrhage is but after searching on the Internet, I have a 0.5% understanding. Of course, reading stuff on the Internet can never be compared to going to medical school. It seems to be leading cause of maternal mortality and I suppose, the most important is whether her physican could have diagnosed it in time and took the necessary measures. However, any idea why the Baby did not make it too?

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/796785-overview

I have spoken to a few gynaes (when my wife was expecting) and although all of them say that "natural birth" is always the prefered option as it has been the natural way and through thousands of years of evolution, the female body can take it. However, all these gynaes also say that there are many unpredictable elements in a Natural Birth and a C-Section is somehow more under their control.

Happy New Year.

As an overall picture, vaginal delivery is definitely the safest mode of delivery for the mother as it carries the least morbidity and mortality.

However, vaginal labour is the most dangerous labour for any human being.

Complications such as fetal distress, shoulder dystocia, baby's injury can happen during the labour (rare / infrequent which I must stress).

These complications when severe enough can cause death or brain damage (e.g. cerebral palsy) due to lack of oxygen to the brain.

Unfortunately there is no way to screen and eliminate 100% the risk of such incident even though the pregnancy can be completely normal during antenatal period.

The doctor can only minimize the risk and lessen the complication based on his experience.

Also normal vaginal delivery need longer monitoring on the baby as a normal delivery may take 6-10 hours as compare to C section.

The busy private doctor may not have time to look after few at the same time (more so if he practices in several hospitals)

The risk will increase for cases like induced labour or suspected big baby etc.

So with all these unpredictable elements, the doctors ESPECIALLY THE PRIVATE DOCTORS will have lower threshold for C section because no complications is allowed.

Any complication will carry bad publicity on his reputation and thus affecting his career.

This is part of the reason why in private, the C section rate seems a bit higher.

This is the reason why private doctors are seem to practice defensive medicine.

This is why O&G is high risk specialty and carries the highest premium of medical insurance indemnity.

In fact you will know some private doctors don't do anymore vaginal delivery and solely C section only.

Postpartum haemorrhage is the leading cause of maternal mortality especially in developing countries including Malaysia.

In Malaysia, it usually happen in those centres without specialist thus no proper handling of the complications.

Death due to PPH after vaginal delivery in centres with specialist (including private centres) is not common

BUT death due to PPH for pregnant ladies with history of previous scars (e.g those with low placenta, placenta praviae or placenta accreta which placenta stuck to the previous scar) is definitely the main cause of PPH death in such centre.

So though you may have a non complicated C section for the 1st pregnancy, you may have put yourself for unnecessary significant higher risk for future pregnancies (especially those with 2 previous scars and above).

As for this case reported in paper, the contributing factor could be:

1. Late detection of PPH and patient already in late stage of shock.

2. Multiple vaginal tear which was difficult to stop bleeding.

3. Uterine atony (failure to contract) and hysterectomy not done immediately.

4. Blood support not good enough (usual problem in private hospital).

5. How was the handling of PPH done? (would you believe some private hospital don't even have Carboprost, an agent to contract the uterus forcefully because it is very expensive and rarely used).

Unless an inquiry is done by independent board and listen to the other side of the story, we will never know what is the exact cause of death (apparently PPH) and whether the complication is handled correctly or not?

Why the baby can't make it? Not very sure from the newspaper report.

But they mentioned 'difficult delivery' which could mean a prolonged 2nd stage or baby stuck or instrumental delivery.

These complication can cause birth asphyxia or brain damage due to lack of oxygen.

If it was bad enough, baby will die.

Anyway this is just my speculation.

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Hi all,

I have been reading a lot from this forum lately because my wife is pregnant :) She is just few weeks conceived. She was late in her period and we bought a pregnancy test kit and it turned out positive. We then went to a GP and the doctor confirms my wife is pregnant. Since this will be our first child, we do not have experience in this. Appreciate if experienced forumers can help me out on a few of my questions below:

1. How soon should my wife visit a gynae?

2. How frequent should my wife visit a gynae?

3. I came across many good feedback for Dr. Paul Tay in PCMC. Anyone here who previously under Dr. Paul can roughly tell me how much is the detail chargers? Consultation, medications, scans, etc

4. Any pantang? foods, actions, etc

Thanks in advance for the great help given! :)

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These complication can cause birth asphyxia or brain damage due to lack of oxygen.

If it was bad enough, baby will die.

Anyway this is just my speculation.

Hi nckeat,

can this also be the suspected cause of autism among babies? heard that cases of autism among newborn babies have increased over the year(s)?

sfgoh

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